I would imagine that it will for the new CAF stock. It would cost a fortune to replace all the seating in the existing Azuma fleet.
Shame but I expect you’re right. Although the standard class azuma seating cant last much longer without at least replacing the foam pads - most are worn flat by now
The current first class headrests have (or should of) now been removed from all
The one asking about opinions between leather seat coverings or so modern bio material?
As above leather headrests now gone
Ridiculous. We shouldnt skrimp on seating that is going to be in use for decades, there is no need for it.
I think it depends largely on your height, posture, spinal condition and amount of - shall we say - posterior padding!
The IET seats are truly awful. I'm average height, slightly overweight. Last but one lengthy GWR journey on a farily empty set, couldnt get comfortable in at least 4 seats that I tried. To the point where I would say I was in actual pain. The metal bar thing is also really noticeable now. In the end I sat in 1st class and was quite prepared to explain why to the guard if ticket was checked. (It wasnt). I'm well aware I shouldn't have (not something I'm in the habit of) and also well aware that it has nothing to do with the poor rail staff, but I was that desperate. Whoever signed off that spec should be sacked.Some have much more than others
I strongly suspect that it was someone at the DfT....so you'll have great difficulty in identifying the individual concerned.
Sadly I think you are right. Perhaps the department concerned, rather than being sacked, should be relocated to Bristol or York and forced to hold all their departmental meetings in person (or on the train)I strongly suspect that it was someone at the DfT....so you'll have great difficulty in identifying the individual concerned.
They probably got promoted for the short-term pennies saved
I’ve heard (can someone confirm?) that Hitachi originally specced a much more comfortable seat, and warned the DfT that its penny pinching changes to Fainsa Sophia would not be popular.
Something needs to be done on this, as I've also frequently had to move seats 5 or 6 times in an attempt to find one where the metal bar isn't digging into me. Even with the best padded seats one can still feel the metal bar. For sure a new seat needs bringing in within the next couple of years in my view.
Yup. That's what someone who worked at Hitachi told me. Hitachi specified some other seats, DfT insisted on cheap tat.
Surely the whole point of signing something off is taking responsibility for a choice or decision. OK, getting access to that name from outside might be difficult / impossible - but internally people higher up the chain of responsibility will know and thus share responsibility. I assume that legal responsibility is seamless across a change of government….I strongly suspect that it was someone at the DfT....so you'll have great difficulty in identifying the individual concerned.
From the DfT POV they did well, got the cheapest possible seats and saved a few pennies in leasing costs.
Not if they’re having to replace them all several years earlier than might otherwise have been the case.
Anyone have a photo of how the first class seats look now please? I.e. have they also removed the Velcro slide mechanism or just the cushion?
It’s more the fact that people were pulling them off and chucking them on floor or in over head racks.
Just the cushion removed. New chains coming soon, so the slide mechanism remains.
Are they being replaced though? I get why punters want them to be, but I've seen no suggestion that they will be.
If LNER seats are getting replaced, then it’s news to LNER staff.
