ATW May/Dec Timetable Changes published

[merlodlliw]

I have been sent the following information on the Wales & Borders(ATW) changes to timetables from May.

A disc has been sent to all stakeholders including County Councils & Rugs this week,requesting any comments by March 7th latest. ,

Table 130
2B99 0551 (SX & SO) - additional service from Cardiff Central to Coryton (response to
customer request).
2BOO 0636 (SX & SO) Cardiff Queen Street to Cardiff Bay will start at Coryton at 0615
(response to customer request).
2H01 1803 (SX & SO) Penarth to Ystrad Mynach will call additionally at Energlyn & Churchill
Park (response to customer request).
Table 132
2G74 2215 (SX) Maesteg to Cheltenham Spa will terminate at Gloucester (future
engineering work).

2F52 0550 (SX) Carmarthen to Cardiff Central is retimed to start at 0547.
1V54 1630 (SX & SO) Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven will call additionally at
Kidwelly and Ferryside (response to customer request).
1W74 1702 (FSX & FO) Carmarthen to Manchester Piccadilly will call additionally at Pyle
(response to customer request).
1W14 1130 (Sun) Milford Haven to Manchester Piccadilly will call additionally at Pencoed,
Llanharan and Pontyclun.
1E16 1205 (Sun) Cardiff Central to Milford Haven will call additionally at Pontyclun,
Llanharan and Pencoed.
1V42 1230 (Sun) Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven will call additionally at Pontyclun,
Llanharan and Pencoed.
Table 129
All train services will match SX and SO timings

Table 128
1B960148 (Sun) Fishguard Harbour to Cardiff Central is retimed to start at 0150.
1EOO 0458 (SX & SO) Carmarthen to Milford Haven is retimed to start at 0445.
1W52 0600 (SX & SO) Milford Han to Manchester Piccadilly is retimed to start at 0550 to call
additionally at Ferryside and Kidwelly (on request - response to customer request).
2F52 0550 (SX) Carmarthen to Cardiff Central is retimed to start at 0547.
1V54 1630 (SX & SO) Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven will call additionally at
Kidwelly and Ferryside (response to customer request).
1W74 1702 (FSX & FO) Carmarthen to Manchester Piccadilly will call additionally at Pyle
(response to customer request).
1W14 1130 (Sun) Milford Haven to Manchester Piccadilly will call additionally at Pencoed,
Llanharan and Pontyclun.
1E16 1205 (Sun) Cardiff Central to Milford Haven will call additionally at Pontyclun,
Llanharan and Pencoed.
1V42 1230 (Sun) Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven will call additionally at Pontyclun,
Llanharan and Pencoed.

Table 81
1H97 2152 (SO) Chester to Manchester Piccadilly is retimed to start at 2153 to maintain a
connection with 2043 from Llandudno.

Table 102
2D10Conwy Valley 0535) will call no.additionally at Tal Y Cafn, customer request.[/CODE]

 

[Welshman]

That's interesting.
Thank you for posting those.
Although I'd be interested in knowing what possible passenger demand there could be at Tal Y Cafn at 5.45am!

 

[Techniquest]

No real changes down the Marches then according to that, good stuff

Glad I read this too, as I'd forgotten about that new station at Energlyn!

 

[merlodlliw]

That's interesting.
Thank you for posting those.
Although I'd be interested in knowing what possible passenger demand there could be at Tal Y Cafn at 5.45am!

The train used to carry post & News a few years ago,its putting Tal Y Cafn on the timetable,suppose one passenger to Betwys Y Coed from Tal Y Cafn would increase the paid for service from nil to one on this train. Some one has asked for the stop,probably local hotel.

 

[anthony263]

ATW have made a very good decision getting the 1702 Carmarthen - Manchester Piccadily service to call @ Pyle would help take some pressure off the 1710 Swansea - Chester service.

Piy this couldnt have been done years ago since it would have made it easier for me to commute home when I have finished university.

 

[tiptoptaff]

Once again the promise of extra weekday service to Pontyclun appears to have gone overlooked......

 

[PHILIPE]

The train used to carry post & News a few years ago,its putting Tal Y Cafn on the timetable,suppose one passenger to Betwys Y Coed from Tal Y Cafn would increase the paid for service from nil to one on this train. Some one has asked for the stop,probably local hotel.

Possibly a farmhand for early morning milking !!!

 

[Class 170101]

I am surprised ATW have bothered re-timed the 01:48 Fishguard Harbour to Cardiff. It seems to appear on NRES with regular monotomy as a bus. Might as well show it as a bus for the whole timetable.

 

[Greenback]

I am surprised ATW have bothered re-timed the 01:48 Fishguard Harbour to Cardiff. It seems to appear on NRES with regular monotomy as a bus. Might as well show it as a bus for the whole timetable.

It does run occasionally, I've seen it! I've been on it too, though the most recent occasion was four years ago.

In days of yore I caught it regularly from Llanelli to get back to Swansea after a night out. In those days, there was another regular passenger who got off as I got on. From the looks of him, he was a doorman returning home by train!

 

[PHILIPE]

I am surprised ATW have bothered re-timed the 01:48 Fishguard Harbour to Cardiff. It seems to appear on NRES with regular monotomy as a bus. Might as well show it as a bus for the whole timetable.

When did this ever last run through to Cardiff on a Sunday ?

 

[merlodlliw]

Possibly a farmhand for early morning milking !!!

guess its Hugh Renal returning home

 

[ValleyLines142]

I notice that the 1530 Manchester to Cardiff and beyond now only runs as far as Camarthen, as opposed to Pembroke Dock.

Any reason for this?

 

[PHILIPE]

I notice that the 1530 Manchester to Cardiff and beyond now only runs as far as Camarthen, as opposed to Pembroke Dock.

Any reason for this?

Since December due fuelling restraints. Would put it over capacity since 3 Car and the alterations to enable this.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Since December due fuelling restraints. Would put it over capacity since 3 Car and the alterations to enable this.

It did seem pretty pointless to say the least!

 

[merlodlliw]

ATW May timetables now live on the web,all except timetable one.

link http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/timetables/

 

[cymro inside]

All Blaenau services have to stop at Tal Y Cafn for operational reasons at the level crossing, they may as well show it as a public stop ,this train is usually empty stock all the way to Blaenau, this is unlikely to change.

 

[merlodlliw]

Pleased to note ATW have listened to us about timetable one,and put heavily used Birmingham/Chester line in the front of the paper timetable instead of in the middle which confused many passengers.
As of today 8th May the web version as not been published


Bob

 

[DaveHarries]

Some one has asked for the stop,probably local hotel.

My Father and I once stayed at the Portsmouth Arms hotel, located next to the station of the same name on the Exeter to Barnstaple line. Owner said he had been trying for a while to get FGW to make Portsmouth Arms a request stop that more trains call at. It is funny that all trains are timed to call there by request on a Sunday but less trains on Mondays to Saturdays.

The new timetable that kicks in on 18th May provides for the following to call at Portsmouth Arms:

Mondays to Fridays:
0700 BNP - SJP
1813 BNP - EXM
2055 EXC - BNP
0612 & 1725 EXM - BNP

Saturdays:
0708 & 1813 BNP - EXM
0612 & 1725 EXM - BNP
2052 EXC - BNP
2218 BNP - EXC

Sundays:
0843 EXD - BNP + 1159, 1404, 1559 & 1956 EXC - BNP
1000, 1324, 1523 & 1720 BNP - EXC + 2130 BNP - EXD

IMO the owner of that hotel has a point. If you have persons staying there who want a day in Exeter without the hassle of parking then they have to get either the earlier train or find a means of getting on another station but there are no buses past the hotel.

Dave

 

[SprinterMan]

All Blaenau services have to stop at Tal Y Cafn for operational reasons at the level crossing, they may as well show it as a public stop ,this train is usually empty stock all the way to Blaenau, this is unlikely to change.

All Conwy Valley services also have to stop at North Llanwrst for operational reasons, but this is not a passenger stop on the early train. This is a shame really, purely because I quite like North Llanwrst station :P

Adam

 

[Cheshire Rover]

I noticed that Northern have pulled the 0722 Newton Le Willows to Man Vic. This means those who used the 0649 Helsby to Picc service and changed at NLW for Man Vic can no longer do this.

 

[berneyarms]

Pleased to note ATW have listened to us about timetable one,and put heavily used Birmingham/Chester line in the front of the paper timetable instead of in the middle which confused many passengers.
As of today 8th May the web version as not been published


Bob

Timetable one is now online.

 

[Gareth Marston]

Timetable one is now online.

Should be 74,75,76 etc