Article: 'In pictures: every single HST livery, ever'

[talltim]

I liked the original executive livery, but thought they ruined it with the lighter tan lower body sides for locos/power cars

 

[talltim]

This has got to be one of the more obscure variants https://www.flickr.com/photos/14982.../photolist-tgoych-ZmGTDq-ZmGRbj-bmVGb5-3JzPnJ

Looking through the article, it strikes me, that ignoring the rest of the livery, some got the yellow the right shape, and some, very wrong...

 

[Cowley]

This has got to be one of the more obscure variants https://www.flickr.com/photos/14982.../photolist-tgoych-ZmGTDq-ZmGRbj-bmVGb5-3JzPnJ

Looking through the article, it strikes me, that ignoring the rest of the livery, some got the yellow the right shape, and some, very wrong...

Interesting. Not seen that before.

 

[GrimShady]

They would have looked good in 'ScotRail' blue stripe livery.

 

[43096]

They would have looked good in 'ScotRail' blue stripe livery.

A bit like this, you mean?
https://www.facebook.com/onetwofivegroup/photos/a.262395600529285/1525108747591291/?type=3&theater

 

[GrimShady]

A bit like this, you mean?
https://www.facebook.com/onetwofivegroup/photos/a.262395600529285/1525108747591291/?type=3&theater

Very nice!

It would look good with the double arrows and ScotRail branding too.

Thanks for that.

 

[whhistle]

...as well as the next MML operator since the DfT has mandated a name change for a "permanent" brand, so likely won't be happy with keeping the Stagecoach colour scheme...

Although if Stagecoach continue, they may want to keep the colour scheme to show it's still Stagecoach.
If Arriva or Abellio, they may not want to bother repainting and we'll just have Stagecoach colours with operator logo until the HSTs are scrapped moved on.

 

[DarloRich]

http://transportdesigned.com/pictures-every-single-hst-livery-ever/



Nice little article of interest from TransportDesigned, dipicting HST liveries of past and present. Enjoy.

the response to this article show why the title alone is a hostage to fortune!

 

[Helvellyn]

The four power cars with the claret stripe should count. That was when Chris Green introduced it as the InterCity house colour. It featured on uniforms, nameplate backgrounds and Summer timetables (Winter ones were dark blue). The plan was to replace the red stripe with a claret one but it didn't work well with the other colours and looked very dull. It re-emerged in a form as the first Gatwick Express livery albeit as a thinner band and a wider white band above.

 

[whhistle]

The four power cars with the claret stripe should count.

Which you said about 5 years ago, nearly word for word :P

 

[Cowley]

Which you said about 5 years ago, nearly word for word :P

Well I wasn't on here five years ago so it was useful information for me.

 

[Helvellyn]

Which you said about 5 years ago, nearly word for word :P

I'm being stalked.

 

[whhistle]

I'm being stalked.

Ha ha, I actually typed in a bit of your text to see a photo of that livery and the first result was that other thread.

 

[sprinterguy]

Unless I've missed it, I don't think that the "war paint" cab wrap that was applied to 43028 during 1997 has been mentioned (Not my photo):
https://mark-beal-tmd.smugmug.com/RetrospectiveRail/Retrospective-Class-43-HST/i-QcsfD8Q

It was proposed, as the text describes, as a separate livery for the Euston - North Wales West Coast services, but was not proceeded with. I think a full trainset would have looked very striking in such a livery, but I think it would have dated a lot faster than the standard Virgin scheme.

Which has also jogged my memory regarding cab treatments, as when eight power cars were converted to surrogate DVTs, they were all given full yellow ends, so 43014 and 43123 carried a variation of Intercity Executive livery with full yellow ends which I don't think has been mentioned:
http://www.traintesting.com/images/43014 ally pally 8-88 Peter Watson.jpg

 

[43096]

Unless I've missed it, I don't think that the "war paint" cab wrap that was applied to 43028 during 1997 has been mentioned (Not my photo):
https://mark-beal-tmd.smugmug.com/RetrospectiveRail/Retrospective-Class-43-HST/i-QcsfD8Q

It was proposed, as the text describes, as a separate livery for the Euston - North Wales West Coast services, but was not proceeded with. I think a full trainset would have looked very striking in such a livery, but I think it would have dated a lot faster than the standard Virgin scheme.

Was it a proposed scheme or was it just an unofficial depot repaint? The haste with which it was painted back suggests it was not authorised and that management took a dim view of it.

 

[Bertie the bus]

I mentioned that livery earlier, referring to it as Swallow / Irish. As for was it an unofficial depot repaint, does anything unofficial ever happen with a Virgin brand? They control their image tightly.

 

[43096]

I mentioned that livery earlier, referring to it as Swallow / Irish. As for was it an unofficial depot repaint, does anything unofficial ever happen with a Virgin brand? They control their image tightly.

On the flip side, given that it was applied in mid-1997, when the Virgin livery had only just started being applied, it stretches credibility that any deviation from the new brand would have been authorised.

 

[Bertie the bus]

It was probably linked to some long forgotten promotional campaign. I doubt it was a proposed livery. If it was it would have been applied to a Virgin livery set and I don't think for a second Virgin would have considered painting whole sets in Irish livery. It doesn't seem to have been that short-lived though. As far as I can tell it lasted from at least July - October.

 

[sprinterguy]

I mentioned that livery earlier, referring to it as Swallow / Irish. As for was it an unofficial depot repaint, does anything unofficial ever happen with a Virgin brand? They control their image tightly.

Ah apologies, I managed to miss that. Sorry!

Was it a proposed scheme or was it just an unofficial depot repaint? The haste with which it was painted back suggests it was not authorised and that management took a dim view of it.

I have wondered that myself, and whether the "alternate West Coast scheme" theory is just a myth that's been perpetuated.

 

[43096]

I have wondered that myself, and whether the "alternate West Coast scheme" theory is just a myth that's been perpetuated.

I suspect myth, as the earliest reference to this "alternate West Coast scheme" I can find is by Colin Marsden - never known as a paragon of accuracy - in his "HST Silver Jubilee" book. A book which, incidentally, is riddled (and I do mean riddled) with errors and inaccuracies. Too many people then believe what he writes and then it then becomes "fact".

The facts do not support this version of events - as the Virgin rail brand had not long been launched. Added to that it was only the cab that was done (InterCity branding was still there) and the numbering is decidedly amateurish.

 

[whhistle]

I mentioned that livery earlier, referring to it as Swallow / Irish. As for was it an unofficial depot repaint, does anything unofficial ever happen with a Virgin brand? They control their image tightly.

Although that's because that is exactly what Virign is: a Brand.

You don't see Stagecoach getting into planes (no, SW Airlines isn't Stagecoach!), internet, TV, radio, banking, gyms, spaceships, balloons, bars, water machines, medical supplies or Cola flavoured drinks

Although it's worth saying while the brand name is the same, the businesses are all run seperately and actually have very little to do with each other, which is a shame in a way. But thats the way Richard makes his money to spend on space travel. He reminds me of Tony Stark!