Arriva Yorkshire discussion

[YorkRailFan]

E400MMC 2016 is now in service. E200MMCs 3002, 3003, 3008 and 3009 are now in service

 

[Kaliwax]

More fleet reg and numbers for new buses

2017: YY75 DVO
2018: YY75 DVP
3004: YY75 DSZ
3005: YY75 DTF
3006: YY75 DTK

 

[Dwarfer1979]

Great to see new stock coming in here. Just out of curiousity does anyone know why Arriva specify the shorter E400MMC’s? Where as the E200MMC’s are the longer 11.5/8m models?

I know the short length is usual in London but with so many operators going for the longer E400MMC’s these days with extra capacity, it does seem unusual. There can’t be much difference cost wise.

I think that largely service bus operators favour the shorter versions of deckers to give a bit more routing flexibility whereas the people who buy the longer version are normally focussing on schools & private hires where the extra seating capacity is a major advantage (two school classes plus teachers/adult helpers on a private hire which probably hits 80 passengers). Except in a few specialist circumstances decker seating capacity is less of a pressure so a shorter bus that can cover more routes if needed is seen as a plus but single-deck seating capacity is often an issue so you go for the biggest suitable - I think also Arriva are often replacing full size single-deckers with their E200s so go for the longest length whilst other operators sourcing for different types of routes favour shorter options.

 

[Kaliwax]

In the case of Arriva Yorkshire it's shorter e200s being replaced by longer e200mmcs. The e200mmcs new ones have 8 more capacity than the e200s they are replacing

 

[YorkRailFan]

E200MMC 3013 is now in service.

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E200MMC 3011 and E400MMC 2019 are now in service.

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E200MMCs 3010 & 3017 are now in service.

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B5LH 1711 has been withdrawn.

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E200MMC 3004 has entered service. Merseyside's 4664 is now in Yorkshire as 1911. B5LH 1720 is now in service in Merseyside as 4862.

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E200MMC 3005 is now in service.

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B5LH 1715 has been withdrawn and stripped for parts.

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E400MMC 2022 and E200MMCs 3006 & 3014 are now in service. Merseyside's 4665 & 4666 (E400s) are now in Yorkshire as 1912 & 1913 respectively.

 

[Kaliwax]

e200s 1045/1046/1058/1059/1067/1068 all withdrawn

 

[YorkRailFan]

E400MMC 1962 has been repainted to Journey Mark.

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E400MMC 2029 is now in service.

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E200MMCs 3012, 3015 & 3016 have entered service.

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e200s 1045/1046/1058/1059/1067/1068 all withdrawn

1068 has gone to Tamworth.

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E200s 1065 & 1069 have been withdrawn.

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E400MMC 2023 has entered service.

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E400MMC 2025 has entered service, 1067 has gone to Tamworth.

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E200MMCs 3018 & 3019 as well as E400MMC 2021 have entered service. Pulsar 2 1449 has transferred to Arriva North East's Darlington depot.

 

[YorkRailFan]

E200MMCs 3020 & 3021 have entered service. Pulsar 2 1450 has transferred to North East.

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E200MMC 3022 has entered service. Arriva Yorkshire's last B7RLE 1111 has been withdrawn from service.

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Pulsar 2 1448 has transferred from Selby depot to Arriva North East.

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E400MMCs 2024, 2027, 2030, 2031 & 2032 have all entered service.

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E400MMCs 2020 & 2026 have entered service.

 

[darylyates17]

Am I right once the remaining hybrids in Yorkshire are withdrawn that the only vehicles in the Eco livery will be Merseysides hybrids?

 

[gka472l]

Am I right once the remaining hybrids in Yorkshire are withdrawn that the only vehicles in the Eco livery will be Merseysides hybrids?

The BYD/E200MMC's at Green Lane (Merseyside) also carry the livery

 

[darylyates17]

The BYD/E200MMC's at Green Lane (Merseyside) also carry the livery

I Forgot about them being in the same livery.

 

[YorkRailFan]

E200 1049 has been withdrawn from Castleford depot.

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E400MMC 1952 has had its 'Merry Christmas' vinyls removed.

B5LHs 1700, 1702, 1703, 1705, 1706, 1707, 1708, 1709, 1710, 1712, 1714, 1716, 1717, 1718 & 1719 have been withdrawn leaving only 1704 & 1721 left in service.

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E400 1920 has had its 'Merry Christmas' vinyls removed. E200s 1060 & 1064 have been withdrawn.

 

[Saad]

B5LHs 1700, 1702, 1703, 1705, 1706, 1707, 1708, 1709, 1710, 1712, 1714, 1716, 1717, 1718 & 1719 have been withdrawn leaving only 1704 & 1721 left in service.

Were these B5s withdrawn due to the 75 plate MMCs or is something else on the way? Only asking as Arriva have pointed to new buses across 2025 and 2026 on their website.

 

[YorkRailFan]

E200MMC 1032 has had its "Merry Christmas" vinyls removed.

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Were these B5s withdrawn due to the 75 plate MMCs or is something else on the way? Only asking as Arriva have pointed to new buses across 2025 and 2026 on their website.

I believe all the new buses have arrived (at least for now). The plan is to remove the B5LHs, classic E200s and Pulsar 1s.

 

[Andyh82]

Plans have been announced to build a new bus depot at Newton Bar in Wakefield replacing the current Arriva Yorkshire Belle Isle premises

Newton Bar Bus Depot; Engagement - Spawforths

Have Your Say: Newton Bar Bus Depot, Wakefield West Yorkshire Combined Authority will soon submit a full planning application to Wakefield Council for a new bus depot at Newton Bar, Leeds Road, Wakefield. In advance of submitting a planning application, we are asking for views

spawforths.co.uk

This will of course open post franchising so will be owned by the combined authority.

 

[Simon75]

Plans have been announced to build a new bus depot at Newton Bar in Wakefield replacing the current Arriva Yorkshire Belle Isle premises

Newton Bar Bus Depot; Engagement - Spawforths

Have Your Say: Newton Bar Bus Depot, Wakefield West Yorkshire Combined Authority will soon submit a full planning application to Wakefield Council for a new bus depot at Newton Bar, Leeds Road, Wakefield. In advance of submitting a planning application, we are asking for views

spawforths.co.uk

This will of course open post franchising so will be owned by the combined authority.

Unusual for a modern depot, to be close to a town/city centre than out of town

 

[YorkRailFan]

B5LH 1721 has been withdrawn leaving only 1704 in service.

 

[Steve440]

Plans have been announced to build a new bus depot at Newton Bar in Wakefield replacing the current Arriva Yorkshire Belle Isle premises

Newton Bar Bus Depot; Engagement - Spawforths

Have Your Say: Newton Bar Bus Depot, Wakefield West Yorkshire Combined Authority will soon submit a full planning application to Wakefield Council for a new bus depot at Newton Bar, Leeds Road, Wakefield. In advance of submitting a planning application, we are asking for views

spawforths.co.uk

This will of course open post franchising so will be owned by the combined authority.

Surely this should be under the 'West Yorkshire Bus Franchising' thread?

 

[Kaliwax]

Just realised Arriva Yorkshire is the only division in Arriva to never ever receive streetlites.

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Oops forgot about Wales

 

[YorkRailFan]

E200MMC 3026 is now in service, joins the rest of the batch of new vehicles Arriva introduced in December.

 

[Kaliwax]

Nope it's 1543 tracking as 3026

 

[YorkRailFan]

The last B5LH 1704 has been withdrawn from service.

Nope it's 1543 tracking as 3026

1543 seems to be tracking on its own ETM now.

 

[Kaliwax]

The last B5LH 1704 has been withdrawn from service.

1543 seems to be tracking on its own ETM now.

Yes Castleford swapped machines last night after service

 

[YorkRailFan]

E200 MMC 1088 has had its 'Merry Christmas' vinyls removed.

 

[317 forever]

It seems that many of the recently delivered vehicles run services into Leeds, E400-MMCs from Wakefield and E200-MMCs from Castleford.

 

[Kaliwax]

It seems that many of the recently delivered vehicles run services into Leeds, E400-MMCs from Wakefield and E200-MMCs from Castleford.

Yes. E400MMCS at Wakefield, primarily seen on 110/444/446 and the E200MMCs 140/141/163/164/165 and on an evening 168. Rarely they make it to Wakefield

 

[darylyates17]

I’ve recently been in Yorkshire to finish off the YJ62 batch of Pulsar 2s which ones are at Castleford if any or are the Pontefract routes run by Wakefield? Only so my personal list is correct.

 

[Kaliwax]

I’ve recently been in Yorkshire to finish off the YJ62 batch of Pulsar 2s which ones are at Castleford if any or are the Pontefract routes run by Wakefield? Only so my personal list is correct.

YJ62 JZX 1469/YJ62 JCZ 1470 /YJ62 JDU 1471/YJ62 JHE 1473/YJ62 JHH 1474/YJ62 JHK 1475/YJ62 JOA 1476/ all at Castleford. Routes from Pontefract ran by Castleford are, 135/140/141/147/186 148/149 are ran by Wakefield.

YJ62 JYZ 1467/YJ62 JZE 1468/ are based at Dewsbury and can be seen on 126/202/203/280/281/283/283A

 

[darylyates17]

YJ62 JZX 1469/YJ62 JCZ 1470 /YJ62 JDU 1471/YJ62 JHE 1473/YJ62 JHH 1474/YJ62 JHK 1475/YJ62 JOA 1476/ all at Castleford. Routes from Pontefract ran by Castleford are, 135/140/141/147/186 148/149 are ran by Wakefield.

YJ62 JYZ 1467/YJ62 JZE 1468/ are based at Dewsbury and can be seen on 126/202/203/280/281/283/283A

Appricate this I just wanted to make sure my list was correct.

 

[Kaliwax]

E400 1890, Versa 791. E200s 1048/1054, Pulsars 1451/1452/1453 all withdrawn