Arriva 158 Refurbishment (combination of 3 threads)

[159jim]

Dose 158840 now have Automated Announcements then???

 

[Arriva158]

Dose 158840 now have Automated Announcements then???

She doesn't as yet but has a new system installed and may possibly have it when the system is all set up!

 

[159jim]

Cool.


My mate wants to know if ATW have done anything about the cycle space????




Thanks,
Jim.

 

[northwichcat]

... and ScotRail 158s. Have a look on Wikipedia.

The interiors of this 158 has a lot more in common with ScotRail's than EMTs.

Scotrail's has a FC section which is only partly separated from standard class.

 

[Philip]

Nice refurb but why aren't they doing this to the same extent on the 175s? Do ATW anticipate losing their Coradia fleet in the near future, hence why only a minor going over is being done on them?

 

[danfitz123]

Nice refurb but why aren't they doing this to the same extent on the 175s? Do ATW anticipate losing their Coradia fleet in the near future, hence why only a minor going over is being done on them?

I think it has something to do with the funding from welsh assembly government. They only funded ATW for the 158's, probably sick of people complaining on cambrian services.

 

[387star]

175s hardly needed much doing whereas the 158s were very tired and do form the mainstay of the long distance fleet. The 175 refresh is very good I don't know why people seem so bothered about the First livery remaining on the side strips

 

[danfitz123]

175s hardly needed much doing whereas the 158s were very tired and do form the mainstay of the long distance fleet. The 175 refresh is very good I don't know why people seem so bothered about the First livery remaining on the side strips

I do understand were people are coming from, a lick of paint wouldn't have exactly hurt the company financially. They should have painted the strips the arriva turquoise colour.

 

[merlodlliw]

I think it has something to do with the funding from welsh assembly government. They only funded ATW for the 158's, probably sick of people complaining on cambrian services.

Sorry you are wrong, other classes have been funded.


Bob
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She doesn't as yet but has a new system installed and may possibly have it when the system is all set up!

any comment on thread 60 about noise Arriva 158, I await a 2nd opinion, after your eight hours of travel on Friday


Bob

 

[the-gog]

My photos of 840 are now online, after being embargoed until Railway Herald came out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/welsh_snapper/sets/72157626505582144/

As well as the seats, photos of vestibule ends, cycle space, both toilets, luggage racks, and interior of both cabs. I also photographed 158820 as a means of a comparison.

 

[anthony263]

Nice shots

 

[danfitz123]

Sorry you are wrong

As Usual :cry:

What I meant was that the funding was mostly for the 158's. The 175's and 153's haven't had much done to them.

 

[j0hn0]

aye great shots indeed.

This is what the 158s have needed for a long time. Nice touch on the headrests so you could sleep if you so desired.

The first time I went on a 158 it was brand new and I loved it. Then they all got so tired so quickly and broken. I wont forget the trips to Tywyn with 1 working toilet on the whole train and no air con.

Great to see them coming back to form

 

[emoaconr]

Arriva did spend some money on them - they reupholstered a lot of them a few years ago from the original Wales&West moquette (i.e. the one that matched the carpet), along with the 150s/153s.

I have to say that moquette (as in my display pic) was a foul pattern. Glad to see the back of it.

I didn't mind the 175s pre-refurb, I think the money should definately be focused on the 158's.

 

[merlodlliw]

Agree, but I was under the impression a 153 had received a refit and was observed down in darkest South West Wales, awful class of train in my opinion.


Bob

pics here from Charlie Humes web site, including one from ATW itself

scroll down http://www.nwrail.org.uk/nwnews.htm

 

[the-gog]

pics here from Charlie Humes web site, including one from ATW itself

scroll down http://www.nwrail.org.uk/nwnews.htm

Yes, 6 of those are mine, as per my Flickr site. That ATW pic of it outside Canton is rather nice.

 

[merlodlliw]

Yes, 6 of those are mine, as per my Flickr site. That ATW pic of it outside Canton is rather nice.

Nice pics Gog, I am passing through Welshpool this morning on the way to Gregynog, by road, I am stewarding a Charity carriage drive all day, so ill look at the Dynamic loop and all its magic.

Bob

 

[TomJ93]

Saw this at Wolverhampton yesterday (along with an attractive guard ) looked very smart, the less well informed could confuse it for a new unit I think.

 

[merlodlliw]

Saw this at Wolverhampton yesterday (along with an attractive guard ) looked very smart, the less well informed could confuse it for a new unit I think.

Presume the guard was female anyhow passed Welshpool station by road just after 4/00p.m. today, the down (to Newtown) was just pulling into platform one all four coaches were well loaded.

Bob

 

[Nym]

Presume the guard was female anyhow passed Welshpool station by road just after 4/00p.m. today, the down (to Newtown) was just pulling into platform one all four coaches were well loaded.

Bob

You saying that all male guards are ugly?

 

[Gareth Marston]

Had first ride on 840 on Thursday. Leg room on airline seats is vast improvement on old layout. (I'm 6' 3"). Though the high backs are not that great for scenic lines my daughter sat by window on left hand side and had good view out of the window close to her but we had to stand to look out for the Osprey nest at Dyfi Jnc (RHS)- I traveled from Newtown to Aberdydi on 1009 ex BHM INTL. The windows were open and air con was struggling, the unit was just under half full - I noticed all tables were occupied and ended up in airline seat by necessity.

 

[merlodlliw]

You saying that all male guards are ugly?

Not all

 

[317666]

The windows were open and air con was struggling.

The air con on 158s hasn't worked for years, due to the original system being de-activated. As far as I know, only SWT have replaced it with a more modern system.

 

[Goldfish62]

The air con on 158s hasn't worked for years, due to the original system being de-activated. As far as I know, only SWT have replaced it with a more modern system.

Which still seems to fail at the first sign of any sunshine. Same with the 458s.

 

[ainsworth74]

As far as I know, only SWT have replaced it with a more modern system.

I'm fairly sure its been replaced on some other operators 158s, plenty of times during the summer whilst its roasting hot I've boarded Northern 158s only to be enveloped by wonderfully cool air (with the windows closed). Much cooler than you would expect than if the air-con wasn't working.

 

[Blindtraveler]

the refurbed scotrail inverness bassed units certainly have reasonable air con

 

[MCR247]

I like the interior, but it was a bad choice not having the 'wings' on the seat

 

[merlodlliw]

picture of it here,on North Wales duty http://www.nwrail.org.uk/nwnews.htm


Bob

 

[merlodlliw]

pics of 158831 being taken to Crewe with a major brake problem.

scroll down for pics http://www.nwrail.org.uk/nwnews.htm


Bob

 

[WSnook37025]

this unit was taken to crewe heritage centre where it was driven under own power to LNWR. has major wheel flats, no brake problems (im a volunteer at CHC)