Another minor irritation!

[Peter Gl]

"Your next station stop is blah blah : blah blah your next station stop"

STATION STOP !?! what's that all about?

Pete

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Well it's a station, and the train stops there. You could perfectly well say the next station which it doesn't call at

 

[district]

Station where the train calls at...

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Station stop, as opposed to a signal stop or an unscheduled stop.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

I'm afraid it's all part of our 'dumbing-down-blame-someone-else-for-your-own-idiocy' society. To prevent insurance claims from simple folk who try to get off a train at signals or other places the train may stop before it actually reaches the station, adding the term 'next station stop' precludes them from doing so.

 

[Bungle73]

I'm afraid it's all part of our 'dumbing-down-blame-someone-else-for-your-own-idiocy' society. To prevent insurance claims from simple folk who try to get off a train at signals or other places the train may stop before it actually reaches the station, adding the term 'next station stop' precludes them from doing so.

That doesn't make any sense. Why would anyone try to get off when the train isn't stopped at a station, and besides the doors will be locked.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

That doesn't make any sense. Why would anyone try to get off when the train isn't stopped at a station, and besides the doors will be locked.

People used to be entrusted to let themselves on and off trains at one time, aside from which having locked doors does not stop people from trying to get off - wintessed that last Friday after being stuck for three hours outside Leicester.

 

[SteamPower]

People used to be entrusted to let themselves on and off trains at one time, aside from which having locked doors does not stop people from trying to get off - wintessed that last Friday after being stuck for three hours outside Leicester.

I wonder where they were hoping to go How far did they get in their attempt to get off?

 

[district]

"Eastbourne our next station stop. Collington our next station non-stop."

 

[Schnellzug]

At least they don't say "Our next train station stop will be..." I fear some small explosions might result then.

Actually, if the Guard's forget to reset the automated thingy, they sometimes say "We are now approaching our final destination station" when they're leaving.

 

[Lampshade]

VWC tend to use "station call".

Some Northern services tend to just not bother, especially East Lancs stoppers.

 

[WestCoast]

Some Northern services tend to just not bother, especially East Lancs stoppers.

Guards are too busy trying to sell tickets!

I think 'calling point' is quite a good alternative to the infamous station/stop or station/call.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

I wonder where they were hoping to go How far did they get in their attempt to get off?

One bloke phoned his missus to come and meet him (he seemed to know roughly whereabouts the train had stopped) and kept going on about 'being held hostage' and how they couldn't keep him there against his will. I think someone did mention that if he used the emergency handle to open the door that the BTP who were there dealing with the incident outside would arrest him.
I always thought that the 'next station stop' thing was just to cover that and similar instances. Had the guard said that the next stop was Leicester it would have given that character some element of defence had he disembarked from the train there.

 

[TheJRB]

Most automated on train announcements simply say "The next station is..." and "We are now approaching..."/"We will shortly be arriving at..." so it appears only manual announcements use the phrase "station stop".

 

[AlterEgo]

Something that annoys me is "calling at the following principal stations....Coventry, Birmingham Intl...etc". They list all the stations....not just the principal ones!

 

[martinsh]

"Your next station stop is blah blah : blah blah your next station stop"

STATION STOP !?! what's that all about?

Pete

They are trying to make sure people don't think stopping at a signal is the station - very necessary at Crewe where everything stops outside !

 

[TheJRB]

Something that annoys me is "calling at the following principal stations....Coventry, Birmingham Intl...etc". They list all the stations....not just the principal ones!

Perhaps they just have a high opinion of all stations.

 

[Bungle73]

They are trying to make sure people don't think stopping at a signal is the station - very necessary at Crewe where everything stops outside !

Sorry, I'm not buying it. What difference does it make to the passenger whether the announcement made is "The next station is..." or "The next station stop is...." and the train then stops at a signal or something? Absolutely none at all. And has been pointed out auto announcements don't say "station stop" so that blows that theory out of the water.

 

[BestWestern]

I see no problem with 'Station stop', the train is stopping at a station is it not?! I often use it myself, though it has nothing to do with stops which aren't at stations, I just find that "Our next stop..." sounds a little too informal, though perhaps on a 'friendlier' local service it might be more appropriate. I quite like 'Station call' though, I might give that one a whirl and see how it flows

 

[87 027]

Another one that gets me is (on Southeastern at least) that the platform indicators and announcements will say 'the next train is not for customer use' when they mean a fast train is approaching. It clearly IS for customer use, it's just not scheduled to call at that particular station!

 

[RobShipway]

Sorry, I'm not buying it. What difference does it make to the passenger whether the announcement made is "The next station is..." or "The next station stop is...." and the train then stops at a signal or something? Absolutely none at all. And has been pointed out auto announcements don't say "station stop" so that blows that theory out of the water.

I don't see the difference either especially as when the train is stopped at a signal the doors would be locked anyway so that the passengers cannot get out.........

 

[Mutant Lemming]

Sorry, I'm not buying it. What difference does it make to the passenger whether the announcement made is "The next station is..." or "The next station stop is...." and the train then stops at a signal or something? Absolutely none at all. And has been pointed out auto announcements don't say "station stop" so that blows that theory out of the water.

If you say the "next stop is" and the train pulls up at a signal then you are technically incorrect. If you say the "next station is" as you approach the next place booked to call but there is a station the train doesn't call at before you reach it then you are technically incorrect.
Announcing "next station stop" covers the guard in the event of people trying to get off if the train gets held at a signal and if a passenger 'pulls the handle' because they see the train drift through the 'next station'.

 

[Bungle73]

If you say the "next stop is" and the train pulls up at a signal then you are technically incorrect. If you say the "next station is" as you approach the next place booked to call but there is a station the train doesn't call at before you reach it then you are technically incorrect.
Announcing "next station stop" covers the guard in the event of people trying to get off if the train gets held at a signal and if a passenger 'pulls the handle' because they see the train drift through the 'next station'.

That's a load of b******s tbh isn't it? What sort of idiot is going to try to get off a train when it's pretty obvious to any fool that it isn't at a station? And has been pointed out the doors are locked anyway. As for a passenger pulling the communication cord...or what ever the proper name is nowadays....that's not very likely either is it?

 

[Mutant Lemming]

That's a load of b******s tbh isn't it? What sort of idiot is going to try to get off a train when it's pretty obvious to any fool that it isn't at a station? And has been pointed out the doors are locked anyway. As for a passenger pulling the communication cord...or what ever the proper name is nowadays....that's not very likely either is it?

I take it you have never had the misfortune of watching the Jeremy Kyle show.

 

[Bungle73]

The passengers trying to get off at a signal explanation doesn't make any sense anyway, as I pointed put earlier. And the auto announcements don't say "station stop" anyway as has been said also.

 

[Eagle]

The passengers trying to get off at a signal explanation doesn't make any sense anyway, as I pointed put earlier. And the auto announcements don't say "station stop" anyway as has been said also.

I reckon it's just sloppy announcements by the guard, the same way as many of them seen to say the ungrammatical "arriving into" rather than "arriving at" which annoys me more every time they do it.

All the more reason for more automated systems, eh? You can always trust a computer system over 80 kilograms of meat to say the right thing!

 

[Schnellzug]

Oh yes, everyone takes notice of automated announcements. No one ever ignores anything prefaced "May we have your attention please", since everyone knows that it'll be something important and not just some pointless computer-generated "you must not...", "you must", "Do try to keep all your luggage & belongings with you...", etc.




This may be slightly ironic.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

The passengers trying to get off at a signal explanation doesn't make any sense anyway, as I pointed put earlier. And the auto announcements don't say "station stop" anyway as has been said also.

I had to 'shut the job down' after idiots on the way to a match at Wembley pullled open the doors of an A60 as far as they could, then squeezed through the relativley small gap and clambered on to the track while stopped at a signal. Anyone dealing with the public on a daily basis will tell you that they can and will do pretty much anything they aren't supposed to however stupid and idiotic it may seem.
With the prepronderance of 'no win no fee "lawyers" ' about any technicality (like saying at Finchley Road ' the next stop is Wembley Park') would be seized upon and used as part of their claim or as a defence for anyone who was caught and charged with trespass.

 

[Bungle73]

I had to 'shut the job down' after idiots on the way to a match at Wembley pullled open the doors of an A60 as far as they could, then squeezed through the relativley small gap and clambered on to the track while stopped at a signal. Anyone dealing with the public on a daily basis will tell you that they can and will do pretty much anything they aren't supposed to however stupid and idiotic it may seem.
With the prepronderance of 'no win no fee "lawyers" ' about any technicality (like saying at Finchley Road ' the next stop is Wembley Park') would be seized upon and used as part of their claim or as a defence for anyone who was caught and charged with trespass.

Nobody has yet explained how saying "the next station stop" rather than "the next station" or "the next stop" makes any difference to what the passenger thinks. It doesn't.

Also this "legal" explanation is plainly nonsense too. No one is going to be able to use as a defence for forcing the doors of a train open and jumping down onto the tracks that an annoucment of "the next station is..." was made. And if it were the case why do the auto annoucments not say it that way too?

 

[island]

"Station stop" is the standard American way of saying it. Just another Americanism arriving here