In relation to a recent thread about Anomalous Place Names for stations I was wondering if I could broaden this out to places without stations. In Liverpool we have Belle Vale which certainly isn't a Belle Vale (No insult intended to anyone from there).
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Anomalous Place Names (Not Stations)
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backontrack
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Berwick-upon-Tweed. South of the river's Tweedmouth!
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And similarly in Manchester, last time I was at Belle Vue I don't remember any Beautiful Views.
In the University of Oxford, New College is stretching it a bit, as it was actually new in 1386.
At Cambridge, St John's College's New Court is a bit more appropriately named, but even that was new in 1831, around the time of Stephenson's Rocket.
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I mentioned Clayton West station in the infrastructure thread, but the village itself is an oddity. There is no and has never been a Clayton East in the area, which begs the question- West of what, exactly?
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Paradise (formerly Paradise Circus) in Birmingham.
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Looe is a surprisingly nice place, when it's not flooded. A flooded Looe is never a good thing!
Gold Coast in Australia oddly enough has a Southport right at the north end!
I didn't know that mate, very coincidental!
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Not if you are stood in Blackpool.
Well, it's in the North of England.
Another one I've thought of is an area of Liverpool called West Derby. It isn't west of anything, there isn't an area in the city called East Derby.
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DarloRich
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Station Town doesn't have a station and nor is it a town!
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The "Trimdon Times" web site says this: "Station Town derives its name from the railway station situated at the south end of Wingate and is actually a suburb. The station was built at the beginning of the century but, as at Wellfield Junction, is now closed, Many years earlier the village had been associated with a colliery which had been sunk at Heath View, nearby, but flooding closed the colliery soon afterwards, leaving the village almost like a ghost town. The colliery houses, almost new, were sold to private owners and the village had been dependent on Wingate for employment and social life to this day."
The line was on the Castle Eden Railway, later the North Eastern Railway.
TheGrandWazoo
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Another County Durham one is the village of No Place that does actually exist ironically!
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There's loads in County Durham. Bearpark and Pity Me (but only when I have to go to that Sainsbury's the Saturday before Christmas), Ferryhill Station (long since gone) and Easington Colliery (ditto). And I do like Co-Operative Villas as a place name. Not to mention Wall and Once Brewed in Northumberland.
West Derby existed as a significant township long before Liverpool did.
It was listed in the Domesday book as 'Derbei', and slightly later the West was added, presumably to differentiate it from the other Derby.
http://historic-liverpool.co.uk/westderby
Just had a thought, a bit further east of West Derby is Knowsley Hall, the home of the Earl Of Derby, why the Earl Of Derby lives just outside Liverpool I don't have a clue, ha ha. Don't know if this is the correct reason for the name but it could explain West Derby.
going off topic, but I think that's quite interesting - when the first of the Stanley family was made Earl of Derby (1485), the family had no connection at all with Derbyshire, but were from West Derby.
However, it seems that the title was in relation to the county of Derby (the title had previously been held by people who were from Derbyshire, although that title was no longer used by 1485), although the current Earl believes that the title is related to West Derby.
Perhaps he was given a historical title, which happened to match the name of his home.
(The two Derbys were of similar sizes in the Domesday book)
However, it seems that the title was in relation to the county of Derby (the title had previously been held by people who were from Derbyshire, although that title was no longer used by 1485), although the current Earl believes that the title is related to West Derby.
Perhaps he was given a historical title, which happened to match the name of his home.
(The two Derbys were of similar sizes in the Domesday book)
Ah right, thanks for the info, very interesting. Don't think it is off topic because it is in relation to my suggestion of why West Derby is called West Derby. Went to a wedding a Knowsley Hall, very posh.
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New Invention in Shropshire has been there a while now, and wasn't particularly ground-breaking when it was established.
TheGrandWazoo
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Arguably, Pity Me is quite apt!
There's quite a few "Colliery" ones - e.g. Cornsay, Trimdon.
Not certain if there's any "ladies of the night, or of easy virtue" in Horden, Scruton, Darlington or Busty Bank (near Shildon) though
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Rocket Pool in Bilston...
Doesn't have its own space program or a swimming pool, much to the disappointment of 6 year old me ??????
It's just a few houses on the outskirts of Bilston, nothing special at all...
Doesn't have its own space program or a swimming pool, much to the disappointment of 6 year old me ??????
It's just a few houses on the outskirts of Bilston, nothing special at all...
Old Swan in Liverpool. I know it is named after pubs but I've never seen any Swans (Young or old) around there for the pubs to be named after, ha ha. Yeah I now I am being simplistic and these places date back a long way.
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Fiddlers Ferry is a funny one. There is a pub not that far away outside Warrington called The Fiddle I' th' Bag which does really nice grub just by the WCML. It is named after something workers in the field used to spread seeds. I am guessing Fiddlers Ferry is named for the Fiddlers who got the ferry back across the Mersey to Runcorn or Daresbury. I fear I am straying off my own subject here as I am trying to explain why places have their name. Ha ha.
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Fiddlers Ferry is a funny one. There is a pub not that far away outside Warrington called The Fiddle I' th' Bag which does really nice grub just by the WCML. It is named after something workers in the field used to spread seeds. I am guessing Fiddlers Ferry is named for the Fiddlers who got the ferry back across the Mersey to Runcorn or Daresbury. I fear I am straying off my own subject here as I am trying to explain why places have their name. Ha ha.
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I didn't know that to be honest, thanks Tony.
Interesting point mate. Just out of interest, I had a look on Wikipedia and found this:
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If I remember rightly, the Old Roan area of Aintree Village is named after a pub which is now closed. Unfortunately I don't know where the pub itself got its name from, but if anyone does, I'd be very interested in finding out.
Ah nice one chief, interesting to know. You have the Hare And Hounds pub in West Derby Village which I guess relates to the old hunting days.
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There is a Clayton near Bradford, but without getting out a map, I don't know if it lies east of Clayton West.
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