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All Line Rover- A question.

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Trainfan344

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Looking up a All Line Rover, looking at validity, I notice it is valid on the Ffestiniog railway, how did this come about?
 
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Historically, the ALR has allowed any benefits enjoyed by those using local rovers. In the case of the Ffestiniog, this used to be free of charge to users of the North Wales & Freedom of Wales rovers.

However, the Ffestiniog is no longer permitted on the local Welsh tickets (you get a 50% reduction instead) & this has been thecase for a few years now. I suspect the continued validity on the ALR is a hangover from these days that hasn't (yet) been picked up as there isn't one TOC pricing manager who would notice this on an All Line...:roll:
 

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Surely it would be the Ffestiniog who would ask for a change?

Presumably they are happy with a few people a year getting a free ride but buying food/drink etc?
 

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Surely it would be the Ffestiniog who would ask for a change?

Presumably they are happy with a few people a year getting a free ride but buying food/drink etc?

I suspect you're right. I doubt if the Ffestiniog see too many ALR's to be honest & those that do use them will purchase other items (such as 1st class upgrade which is what I used to do when the North Wales 4/8 rovers used to be free on that line).
 

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Historically, the ALR has allowed any benefits enjoyed by those using local rovers. In the case of the Ffestiniog, this used to be free of charge to users of the North Wales & Freedom of Wales rovers.

However, the Ffestiniog is no longer permitted on the local Welsh tickets (you get a 50% reduction instead) & this has been thecase for a few years now.
Perhaps it's a quid pro quo for promoting the Ffestiniog Round Robin. The line does look pretty on the ALR map, whether or not they get anything for it.
 

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The Ffestiniog has long had strong links with BR and successors. They used to have their own travel agent service and sold BR tickets. I don't know if they still do this. They also used to do organised couriered trips abroad too, I used to know someone who was a courier for them.
 

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We used the Ffestiniog on our All Line Rover last year. As it was a First Class ALR we travelled First Class on the FR too. The guard had no issues at all.
 
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