745104 Damaged

[fat_boy_pete]

This unit appears to have suffered in contact with some buffers. Video is in attached tweet.

https://twitter.com/satupfront/status/1533511200645971970?t=kDB8LElu2DNrv4imbd0d1g&s=19

I wonder if can be repaired at Crown point?

 

[Adrian1980uk]

Ooopps

 

[Class360/1]

Ouch, looks like a hefty bill to fix that up.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Oh dear! Where's the location, and is that recent footage?

 

[43096]

Oh dear! Where's the location, and is that recent footage?

The incident was at Crown Point and apparently was yesterday. Reported that it was pushed through by a ROG 37.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

The incident was at Crown Point and apparently was yesterday.

Ta! Is that the Crown Point (Depot) just outside Norwich?

 

[Class360/1]

Yes

 

[Bayum]

Is it an issue as with the HST nose cones where it's primarily fibreglass?

 

[rustbucket]

The incident was at Crown Point and apparently was yesterday. Reported that it was pushed through by a ROG 37.

Makes sense given 37608 was dragging it about yesterday, and it's clearly intact in a video of it doing it

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Is it an issue as with the HST nose cones where it's primarily fibreglass?

Did wonder! Difficult to tell from a 15 second video clip, but is the damage occasioned likely to be more substantial than just replacing the nose cone assembly?

 

[High Dyke]

Obviously a larger STOP sign is needed.

 

[DanNCL]

Assuming there’s no further damage than what can be seen from the video linked further up, repairing the train would likely only be a case of replacing the damaged body panels and the coupler. Modern units such as the Flirt are designed for such panels on the cabs to take such damage and be easily replaced afterwards. If there’s additional damage beyond what can be seen then it could be a more substantial repair, especially if there’s structural damage to the main bodyshell rather than just the cab sub-assembly.

 

[59CosG95]

ROG's Peggy & Percy (37611 & 37601) are en route with a VSTP (0xxx) from Derby RTC to Crown Point.

Realtime Trains | 038N 1112 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Norwich C.Pt. T.&R.S.M.D | 06/06/2022

Real-time train running information for 038N 1112 departure from Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Norwich C.Pt. T.&R.S.M.D on 06/06/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Just passed Peterborough and confirmed with Mk1 eyeballs.

Unsure if this is related to rescuing the stricken Flirt or it it's some other matter.

 

[dk1]

Obviously a larger STOP sign is needed.

It was being propelled at the time.

 

[150249]

This unit appears to have suffered in contact with some buffers. Video is in attached tweet.

https://twitter.com/satupfront/status/1533511200645971970?t=kDB8LElu2DNrv4imbd0d1g&s=19

I wonder if can be repaired at Crown point?

Who's done that then?

 

[skyhigh]

Who's done that then?

Reported that it was pushed through by a ROG 37.

 

[66701GBRF]

Radio communication failure apparently. Not the first time, nor the last something like this happens.

 

[150249]

The incident was at Crown Point and apparently was yesterday. Reported that it was pushed through by a ROG 37.

37884 by any chance? Always been a cheeky little so-and-so

 

[TRAX]

It’s quite ridiculous that European trains can get this much damage after a small-speed shunt in a thin depot buffer stop.

 

[Davester50]

It’s quite ridiculous that European trains can get this much damage after a small-speed shunt in a thin depot buffer stop.

Need to get some solid 60's Russian gear.

Oh. Wait.

 

[Townsend Hook]

It’s quite ridiculous that European trains can get this much damage after a small-speed shunt in a thin depot buffer stop.

Trains, like cars, are designed with parts intended to deform in a collision to dissipate energy in as safe a manner as possible.

 

[TRAX]

Trains, like cars, are designed with parts intended to deform in a collision to dissipate energy in as safe a manner as possible.

American crash-worthiness standards are even more stringent than european ones, yet American trains come out of crashes much better than European ones.

 

[GB]

American crash-worthiness standards are even more stringent than european ones, yet American trains come out of crashes much better than European ones.

IF USA standards are more stringent then it stands to reason their trains would come out better. But what are you basing that opinion on?

 

[43096]

American crash-worthiness standards are even more stringent than european ones, yet American trains come out of crashes much better than European ones.

Probably a good thing given the regularity with which rail accidents happen in the US.

 

[snowball]

IF USA standards are more stringent then it stands to reason their trains would come out better.

No it doesn't. Standards are designed to protect people, not hardware.

 

[172007]

So, what we can all agree on. A train that is built to the standard of a Nato main battle tank but rather than reactive armour over the conventional steel facet type would be a good metre or two of aluminium sacrificial crumple zone covered in a hard fibre glass shell for aesthetics. Seats inside will be the 1940's sprung type with seat belts, side impact airbags and an airbag in the rear of the seat in front.

 

[Master29]

So, what we can all agree on. A train that is built to the standard of a Nato main battle tank but rather than reactive armour over the conventional steel facet type would be a good metre or two of aluminium sacrificial crumple zone covered in a hard fibre glass shell for aesthetics. Seats inside will be the 1940's sprung type with seat belts, side impact airbags and an airbag in the rear of the seat in front.

Sounds great....Until you meet a German Tiger or Panzer at 100+mph then I might regret that decision....

 

[supervc-10]

It’s quite ridiculous that European trains can get this much damage after a small-speed shunt in a thin depot buffer stop.

Because old British stuff looks so good after hitting buffer stops...

 

[TRAX]

Because old British stuff looks so good after hitting buffer stops...

I think you need to read my message a few times to understand my point.

 

[gledhill56]

Because old British stuff looks so good after hitting buffer stops...

That collided with more than just a buffer stop.