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Diagrams for today :-
Ta 73140 & Roger Smith
Cheers
Hentis
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Allox @05.00 hrs - observations/alterations welcome!
2405 BM 'N'
2409 BM 'N'
2410 NT314
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+50 5W01
BRANKSOME 05+54 06+00 5W01
BOURNEMOUTH 06+04 06.15 2W01
WEYMOUTH 07.16 07.25 2W26
BROCKENHURST 08.54 09+01 5B11
POOLE S. S. 09+32 09+57 5B34
POOLE 09+59 10.01 1B34
LONDON WATERLOO 12.21 13.05 1B37
POOLE 15.19 15+21 5B37
POOLE S. S. 15+23 15+48 5B58
POOLE 15+50 16.01 1B58
LONDON WATERLOO 18.22 18.39 1B59
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 20.14 20+19 5B59
SOUTHAMPTON DOWN LOOP 20+21 20+27 5B76
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 20+29 20.55 2B76
LONDON WATERLOO 22.43 23.05 1B97
POOLE 01.30 01+44 5B98
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 01+53
2412 NT310
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+20 5B89
POOLE 05+29 05.45 1B90
LONDON WATERLOO 07.44 08.05 1B17
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09.22 09+30 5B17
SOUTHAMPTON UP GOODS LOOP 09+32 09+51 5B32
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09+53 09.55 2B32
LONDON WATERLOO 11.34 12.05 1B33
POOLE 14.19 14+21 5B33
POOLE S. S. 14+23 14+52 5B54
POOLE 14+54 15.01 1B54
LONDON WATERLOO 17.20 18.05 1B57
POOLE 20.17 20+26 5B62
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+35
But suspect it will run as yesterday:-
LONDON WATERLOO 11.34 12.35 1W35
WEYMOUTH 15.19 16.00 1W60
LONDON WATERLOO 18.47 19.05 1B61
POOLE 21.23 21+25 5B61
POOLE S. S. 21+27 21+36 5B64
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+48
With something else coming out to partner it on:-
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 16+32 5W60
BRANKSOME 16+36 16+45 5W60
BOURNEMOUTH 16+49 16.59 1W60
LONDON WATERLOO 18.47 19.05 1B61
POOLE 21.23 21+25 5B61
POOLE S. S. 21+27 21+36 5B64
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+48
2413 + 2419 both shown allox NT309:
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+20 5B89
POOLE 05+29 05.45 1B90
LONDON WATERLOO 07.44 08.05 1B17
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09.22 09.26 1B17
POOLE 10.20 10+26 5B17
POOLE S. S. 10+28 10+48 5B38
POOLE 10+50 11.01 1B38
LONDON WATERLOO 13.20 14.05 1B41
POOLE 16.19 16+21 5B41
POOLE S. S. 16+23 16+55 5B62
POOLE 16+57 17.01 1B62
LONDON WATERLOO 19.20 19.35 1W63
BOURNEMOUTH 21.20 21.25 1W63
WEYMOUTH 22.21 23.11 2W86
BOURNEMOUTH 00.04 00+10 5W86
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 00+12 01+15 5Z80
BOURNEMOUTH 01+17 01+17 5Z80
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 01+44 01.53 1Z81
BOURNEMOUTH 02.32 02+34 5B81
BRANKSOME 02+39 02+48 5B81
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+52
2420 BM 'N'Ta 73140 & Roger Smith
Cheers
Hentis
thefab444
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No news on 450127? 
The atmosphere around Bournemouth at the mo as you can imagine is not that good. I would expect 450127 to hopefully be out by the end of the week.
Regarding the 2414, 2421 & 2424, It will be intresting to see them working once again.
Cheers
Tony.
Regarding the 2414, 2421 & 2424, It will be intresting to see them working once again.
Cheers
Tony.
Heres a list of the Status of the Wessex Electric Fleet as at 20:13 23-01-07
2401 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2402 - Exam Bournemouth 27/01/07
2403 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2404 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2405 - Bournemouth in use
2406 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2407 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2408 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2409 - Exam Bournemouth 27/01/07
2410 - In Use
2411 - Stored Bournemouth 26/01/07
2412 - Bournemouth in use
2413 - In Use
2414 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/06
2415 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2416 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2417 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2418 - EXAM Bournemouth.
2419 - In use
2420 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/07
2421 - Stored Eastleigh 26/01/07
2422 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2423 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2424 - ILFORD C6 22/01/07
Apparently 5 units have been retained until February 10th due to a shortage of 444's. It was also confirmed that the Wessex Electrics fleet were due to have their buffet's, snug/lounge and guards area removed and converted for more standard seating. But this was cancelled. Even though it would have had more seats than a class 444.
Cheers
Hentis
2401 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2402 - Exam Bournemouth 27/01/07
2403 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2404 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2405 - Bournemouth in use
2406 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2407 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2408 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2409 - Exam Bournemouth 27/01/07
2410 - In Use
2411 - Stored Bournemouth 26/01/07
2412 - Bournemouth in use
2413 - In Use
2414 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/06
2415 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2416 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2417 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2418 - EXAM Bournemouth.
2419 - In use
2420 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/07
2421 - Stored Eastleigh 26/01/07
2422 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2423 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2424 - ILFORD C6 22/01/07
Apparently 5 units have been retained until February 10th due to a shortage of 444's. It was also confirmed that the Wessex Electrics fleet were due to have their buffet's, snug/lounge and guards area removed and converted for more standard seating. But this was cancelled. Even though it would have had more seats than a class 444.
Cheers
Hentis
Edited 2414 & 2420 as Stored at Eastleigh
2413 ran 5W53 BM-Wey/5W54 Wey-BM, driver trainer to train Freightliner drivers who will be moving the units after the expiry of lease to SWT on 3rd Feb. Expectation is some will be driven to store but others may have to be towed.
Cheers
Hentis
2413 ran 5W53 BM-Wey/5W54 Wey-BM, driver trainer to train Freightliner drivers who will be moving the units after the expiry of lease to SWT on 3rd Feb. Expectation is some will be driven to store but others may have to be towed.
Cheers
Hentis
trains2
Member
I've just uploaded some pics from my afternoon at Eastleigh to see 2414 running on the mainline.
2414 rolls into Eastleigh:
73136 shunts 2420, with 7 442s visible in one picture:
Livery detail on 442414:
More at http://www.southernrailwaypics.co.uk/
Cheers
2414 rolls into Eastleigh:
73136 shunts 2420, with 7 442s visible in one picture:
Livery detail on 442414:
More at http://www.southernrailwaypics.co.uk/
Cheers
Nice shots there Ricahrd. I am hopefully going to Eastleigh on Saturday to get some shots.
Incidently I was informed this afternoon that 2413 is now one again with its DTSO. I got a few shots of it this afternoon as well. So 2418 is now back together again as well.
Saw 2412, 2410 & 2413 at Poole this afternoon.
Pics on the site over the next few days.
Cheers
Hentis
Incidently I was informed this afternoon that 2413 is now one again with its DTSO. I got a few shots of it this afternoon as well. So 2418 is now back together again as well.
Saw 2412, 2410 & 2413 at Poole this afternoon.
Pics on the site over the next few days.
Cheers
Hentis
Went to Eastleigh today in style.... behind 2405+2410 was Headz out in 2410 offside guards window most of the time.... my Lordz. The EE motors were whining a treat.... big up English Electric motors!!! Last chance for me really to Headz out.... got quite a few good shots as well..... nearly lost the camera twice :eeK Also took shots of the pig sty at Eastleigh. They look forlorn there intermixed with other not wanted units
Pics on the site somewhen.
Cheers
Hentis
Pics on the site somewhen.
Cheers
Hentis
HEH What was the SMS I Sent you are you text me with I've seen it 5 times....
It was "I flail you sir"!!! Hey at least I got 123 instead its still one down.
Just going to update the list.
2421 is at Eastleigh and 2411 is NOW BACK at Bournemouth. We belive a 73 hauled it back Friday night.
Cheers
Hentis
It was "I flail you sir"!!! Hey at least I got 123 instead its still one down.
Just going to update the list.
2421 is at Eastleigh and 2411 is NOW BACK at Bournemouth. We belive a 73 hauled it back Friday night.
Cheers
Hentis
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Tom
Guest
That means 73109s account is prone to spelling errors, as memorex wouldn't write
WessexWarrior
Member
I got a (very flukey) last ride on a Wessex on Friday afternoon, as 2405 unexpectedly popped up on a semi-fast from Southampton Central.
I'm gonna miss those units.
EDIT: Also, has anyone seen the 'Notes' Section of this page regarding the 442's?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_442
I'm gonna miss those units.
EDIT: Also, has anyone seen the 'Notes' Section of this page regarding the 442's?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_442
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Tom
Guest
That notes section has been formed by looking at the various enthusiast sites... 
Apprently 2413 is now withdrawn after hitting some thing on the main line at byfleet and new haw took out the the bottom of the unit, my mate said that a dessie kits some ballast up or summit and it hit the pig, i saw it sat in Bomo Depot last night!
Oracle
Established Member
It was in fact the 0612 Waterloo-Wareham which then goes back to Brockenhurst. Are there any other Waterloo services from south of Southampton that use 450s now?
T
Tom
Guest
All are booked 444... with the exception of the 0612 Waterloo - Wareham.
Today's chart:
Today's chart:
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2410 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+50 5W01 NT314
BRANKSOME 05+54 06+00 5W01 NT314
BOURNEMOUTH 06+04 06.15 2W01 NT314
WEYMOUTH 07.16 07.25 2W26 NT314
BROCKENHURST 08.54 09+01 5B11 NT314
POOLE S. S. 09+32 09+57 5B34 NT314
POOLE 09+59 10.01 1B34 NT314
LONDON WATERLOO 12.21 13.05 1B37 NT314
POOLE 15.19 15+21 5B37 NT314
POOLE S. S. 15+23 15+48 5B58 NT314
POOLE 15+50 16.01 1B58 NT314
LONDON WATERLOO 18.22 18.39 1B59 NT314
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 20.14 20+19 5B59 NT314
SOUTHAMPTON DOWN LOOP 20+21 20+27 5B76 NT31
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 20+29 20.55 2B76 NT31
LONDON WATERLOO 22.43 23.05 1B97 NT306
------ modified ------
Departs London Waterloo 23.05 on 23.05 London Wat - Poole
Arr Poole 01.34, dep 01.44 on 5B98 to Bournemouth T&RSMD
2412 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+20 5B89 NT309
POOLE 05+29 05.45 1B90 NT309
LONDON WATERLOO 07.44 08.05 1B17 NT309
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09.22 09.26 1B17 NT309
POOLE 10.20 10+26 5B17 NT309
POOLE S. S. 10+28 10+48 5B38 NT309
POOLE 10+50 11.01 1B38 NT309
LONDON WATERLOO 13.20 14.05 1B41 NT309
POOLE 16.19 16+21 5B41 NT309
POOLE S. S. 16+23 16+55 5B62 NT309
POOLE 16+57 17.01 1B62 NT309
LONDON WATERLOO 19.20 19.35 1W63 NT309
BOURNEMOUTH 21.20 21.25 1W63 NT309
WEYMOUTH 22.21 23.11 2W86 NT309
BOURNEMOUTH 00.04 00+11 5B85 NT309
BRANKSOME 00+16 00+22 5B85 NT309
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+26 NT309
2419 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+20 5B89 NT310
POOLE 05+29 05.45 1B90 NT310
LONDON WATERLOO 07.44 08.05 1B17 NT310
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09.22 09+30 5B17 NT310
SOUTHAMPTON UP GOODS LOOP 09+32 09+51 5B32 NT310
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09+53 09.55 2B32 NT310
LONDON WATERLOO 11.34 12.05 1B33 NT310
POOLE 14.19 14+21 5B33 NT310
POOLE S. S. 14+23 14+52 5B54 NT310
POOLE 14+54 15.01 1B54 NT310
LONDON WATERLOO 17.20 18.05 1B57 NT310
POOLE 20.17 20+26 5B62 NT310
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+35 NT310Oracle
Established Member
Cheers. It must be great fun to ride that long down from Waterloo! Is a diagram available please to show how the units get to London?
T
Tom
Guest
0612 starts berthed in London overnight, it then runs a few Wareham shuttles and then to depot overnight IIRC.
EDIT: Here you go - had to write it by hand though!
EDIT: Here you go - had to write it by hand though!
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LONDON WATERLOO 06.12 2W13
WAREHAM 09.37 09+39 5W13
WAREHAM SIDINGS 09+41 09+46 5W13
WAREHAM 09+48 09.59 2W34
BROCKENHURST 10.54 11.16 2W23
WAREHAM 12.12 12+18 5W23
WAREHAM SIDINGS 12+20 12+50 5W46
WAREHAM 12+52 12.59 2W46
BROCKENHURST 13.54 14.16 2W35
WAREHAM 15.12 15+18 5W35
WAREHAM SIDINGS 15+20 15+50 5W58
WAREHAM 15+52 15.59 2W58
WINCHESTER 18.07 18+08 5B58
WINCH BALTIC SDG 18+10 18+34 5B95
WINCHESTER 18+36 18.38 2B95
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 19.04 19+10 5B95
NORTHAM DEPOT 19+36Oracle
Established Member
Thanks...is the Up working to Waterloo ECS?
T
Tom
Guest
No, it'll be formed from a service in the morning - it starts there and is not from Clapham or Wimbledon (booked), so will be a service from the previous night.
Oracle
Established Member
Cheers. Couldn't easily i.d. which one is the Up service that stables. I assume, and I am being very thick today after a long day, that there is a balancing Up train late night.
And thanks again Tom for the reply below.
David
And thanks again Tom for the reply below.
David
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Tom
Guest
Correct. 
It will be any one of the "up" services that is formed of 4x450.
It will be any one of the "up" services that is formed of 4x450.
Updated the list 2409+2411 away today for storage.
2401 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2402 - Exam Bournemouth 27/01/07
2403 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2404 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2405 - Bournemouth in use
2406 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2407 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2408 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2409 - Stored Eastleigh 29/01/07
2410 - In Use
2411 - Stored Eastleigh 29/01/07
2412 - Bournemouth in use
2413 - In Use
2414 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/06
2415 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2416 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2417 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2418 - EXAM Bournemouth.
2419 - In use
2420 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/07
2421 - Stored Eastleigh 26/01/07
2422 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2423 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2424 - ILFORD C6 22/01/07
Apparently 2413 hit something and had a smashed skirt on Saturday. No more details are known. Not suprised if this is another candidate to go.
Cheers
Hentis
2401 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2402 - Exam Bournemouth 27/01/07
2403 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2404 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2405 - Bournemouth in use
2406 - Stored Eastleigh 15/01/07
2407 - Stored Eastleigh 22/01/07
2408 - Stored Eastleigh 17/01/07
2409 - Stored Eastleigh 29/01/07
2410 - In Use
2411 - Stored Eastleigh 29/01/07
2412 - Bournemouth in use
2413 - In Use
2414 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/06
2415 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2416 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2417 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2418 - EXAM Bournemouth.
2419 - In use
2420 - Stored Eastleigh 24/01/07
2421 - Stored Eastleigh 26/01/07
2422 - Stored Eastleigh 19/01/07
2423 - TRAN Bournemouth 27/01/07
2424 - ILFORD C6 22/01/07
Apparently 2413 hit something and had a smashed skirt on Saturday. No more details are known. Not suprised if this is another candidate to go.
Cheers
Hentis
U donut Hentis if u had read the thread i posted that wiv more details!! Just cant get the staff these days!!!
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