2 day Northern Rail vouchers

[exile]

Here's a challenge!

I have been given a 2 day voucher by Northern Rail.

Given these constraints

1. Northern trains only

2. Starting on the morning of day 1 from Warrington, not before 9am.

3. Ending back at Warrington, on the 2nd last available train on day 2 (for contingency)

4. Ending day 1 at Carlisle

Can you design a route which includes Hull on the 2nd day? So something like Warrington-Manchester-Carlisle day 1, Carlisle-Leeds-Hull-Sheffield-Warrington day 2.

The problem I'm having is the Preston-Lancaster section which has very few Northern trains.

I am prepared to pay for 1 train journey (eg Preston-Lancaster on VT or TPE) or say a bus from Colne to Skipton.

 

[backontrack]

Can you use DalesRail?

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

You would need to go to Doncaster from Leeds or to York from Leeds to get to Hull

 

[James Wake]

Get the 1004 Preston to Barrow class 37s then change into the other set for Carlisle. Then you could maybe do a return to wherever the Tyne Valley line is terminating at the moment. Day 2 do the Settle and Carlisle to Leeds, then York then Hull, come back via Doncaster, Leeds and Manchester for a 319 back towards Liverpool/Warrington? Some ideas to start you off.

 

[exile]

Some useful ideas, thanks.

 

[Bevan Price]

Get the 1004 Preston to Barrow class 37s then change into the other set for Carlisle. Then you could maybe do a return to wherever the Tyne Valley line is terminating at the moment. Day 2 do the Settle and Carlisle to Leeds, then York then Hull, come back via Doncaster, Leeds and Manchester for a 319 back towards Liverpool/Warrington? Some ideas to start you off.

Unless you have a special reason for wanting an overnight stop in Carlisle, I would suggest (whilst the Tyne Valley line is not fully open):

Day 1:
1. Pay, Warrington to Wigan NW (08:27 0r earlier),
2. Class 319, 09:03 Wigan - Preston (08:28 from Lime St.)
3. To Carlisle as above.
4. 15:06 Carlisle - Leeds (arrive 17:40).
Not checked timetable, but could probably get back to Warrington same day.
Alternatively, overnight stop somewhere in Leeds/Sheffield/Doncaster area.

Day 2.
Warrington (or overnight stop location) to cover Leeds/York/Hull/Sheffield (either way round). If second day is a saturday, consider doing Sheffield / Gainsborough Central / Grimsby service.

 

[185143]

Get the 1004 Preston to Barrow class 37s then change into the other set for Carlisle. Then you could maybe do a return to wherever the Tyne Valley line is terminating at the moment. Day 2 do the Settle and Carlisle to Leeds, then York then Hull, come back via Doncaster, Leeds and Manchester for a 319 back towards Liverpool/Warrington? Some ideas to start you off.

Unless you have a special reason for wanting an overnight stop in Carlisle, I would suggest (whilst the Tyne Valley line is not fully open):

Day 1:
1. Pay, Warrington to Wigan NW (08:27 0r earlier),
2. Class 319, 09:03 Wigan - Preston (08:28 from Lime St.)
3. To Carlisle as above.
4. 15:06 Carlisle - Leeds (arrive 17:40).
Not checked timetable, but could probably get back to Warrington same day.
Alternatively, overnight stop somewhere in Leeds/Sheffield/Doncaster area.

Day 2.
Warrington (or overnight stop location) to cover Leeds/York/Hull/Sheffield (either way round). If second day is a saturday, consider doing Sheffield / Gainsborough Central / Grimsby service.

Or ask the TM very nicely Warrington-Wigan, they generally let you. And if they don't, pay and write to VT and get a £45 RTV.

.Back on topic though, you'd easily get back to Warrington, I've done exactly that plan several times! Long day mind..

 

[exile]

Or ask the TM very nicely Warrington-Wigan, they generally let you. And if they don't, pay and write to VT and get a £45 RTV.

.Back on topic though, you'd easily get back to Warrington, I've done exactly that plan several times! Long day mind..

I also wonder if this is a goer....

Warrington-Manchester(walk between Oxford Rd and Victoria)-Bradford(walk Interchange-Forster Square)-Shipley-Carnforth-Barrow-Carlisle.

I suspect that the infrequent Leeds-Morecambe service might scupper that plan....

 

[Bevan Price]

I also wonder if this is a goer....

Warrington-Manchester(walk between Oxford Rd and Victoria)-Bradford(walk Interchange-Forster Square)-Shipley-Carnforth-Barrow-Carlisle.

I suspect that the infrequent Leeds-Morecambe service might scupper that plan....

Should be possible on Monday to Friday. You need to catch the 13:16 Leeds to Lancaster (15:18) then catch the 15:33 Lancaster - Carlisle via Barrow. (Change at Carnforth if Leeds/Morecambe service is late)

More difficult on Saturday, as you would need to use the 10:19 off Leeds. (15:20 Lancaster - Barrow is the last Northern service with a connection from Barrow to Carlisle, and the 13:50 Leeds - Morecambe misses the connection at Carnforth.)

 

[IanXC]

You would need to go to Doncaster from Leeds or to York from Leeds to get to Hull

As long g as it is not a Sunday, it is of course possible to take the Leeds - Selby service and change onto an ex-York there. The connections are generally pretty good when travelling West, but very poor when travelling East.

 

[185143]

Or ask the TM very nicely Warrington-Wigan, they generally let you. And if they don't, pay and write to VT and get a £45 RTV.

.Back on topic though, you'd easily get back to Warrington, I've done exactly that plan several times! Long day mind..

I also wonder if this is a goer....

Warrington-Manchester(walk between Oxford Rd and Victoria)-Bradford(walk Interchange-Forster Square)-Shipley-Carnforth-Barrow-Carlisle.

I suspect that the infrequent Leeds-Morecambe service might scupper that plan....

I know (from experience) that
Early TPE Warrington-Leeds (advance)
Leeds-Carlisle
Carlisle-Carnforth
Carnforth-Leeds
Leeds-Manchester Vic
Deansgate-Warrington

 

[backontrack]

What about Carlisle-Newcastle?

 

[Bevan Price]

What about Carlisle-Newcastle?

Not available throughout until they clear the Corbridge landslide.

Also, if approached via ECML, you would probably need to pay between York and either Darlington or Middlesbrough --- Northern has no booked passenger services between those stations (and very few between Darlington & Newcastle via Durham.)
.

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

What about Carlisle-Newcastle?

Not available throughout until they clear the Corbridge landslide.


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Services will be restored CAR-NCL on the 30th

 

[anti-pacer]

DAY 1

As above to Preston, Barrow and Carlisle, arriving 1428, then...

1436 Carlisle-Hexham 1522
1543 Hexham-Middlesbrough 1748

Overnight in Middlesbrough (should be cheap there)

DAY 2

0704 Middlesbrough-Whitby 0838
BUS TO SCARBOROUGH 0936 arriving 1036 (X93 Arriva)
1128 Scarborough-Hull 1253
1 HOUR IN HULL
1357 Hull-Sheffield 1520
QUICK TRIP TO THE SHEFFIELD TAP
1614 Sheffield-1731 Manchester Piccadilly
ANY NORTHERN TRAIN TO OXFORD ROAD
1816 Manchester Oxford Road-Warrington Central 1846

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

DAY 1

As above to Preston, Barrow and Carlisle, arriving 1428, then...

1436 Carlisle-Hexham 1522
1543 Hexham-Middlesbrough 1748

Overnight in Middlesbrough (should be cheap there)

DAY 2

0704 Middlesbrough-Whitby 0838
BUS TO SCARBOROUGH 0936 arriving 1036 (X93 Arriva)
1128 Scarborough-Hull 1253
1 HOUR IN HULL
1357 Hull-Sheffield 1520
QUICK TRIP TO THE SHEFFIELD TAP
1614 Sheffield-1731 Manchester Piccadilly
ANY NORTHERN TRAIN TO OXFORD ROAD
1816 Manchester Oxford Road-Warrington Central 1846

Have you set a date - I might be able to partner you for some of the trip

 

[anti-pacer]

Have you set a date - I might be able to partner you for some of the trip

I'm not going, this was just a suggestion for the OP.

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

I'm not going, this was just a suggestion for the OP.

I know that, but thought to make things clearer, I'd quote your post

 

[anti-pacer]

I know that, but thought to make things clearer, I'd quote your post

Oh OK. Fair enough.

You clearly like my itinerary.