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Generally speaking (I have witnessed this in a work situation in a large company in London), the Asian and Black (Afro Carribbean/African) communities do not mix, and there is sometimes friction. In this instance, is there any CCTV which can verify either/both accounts or is it one word against...

Brilliant answer IMO. :D

No, you committed a crime - end of, you intended to cheat which is not an error or mistake.

Nothing would surprise me to be honest:)

Absolutely nothing since the cheque was cashed after I sent it to IPFAS.

This is definitely the case at my station, where the malfunctioning PTT machine was removed entirely and we still have no ticket machine, yet we still have the warning notices frightening unwary travellers, lest they board a train without previously purchasing a ticket.

I was instructed by Transport Focus (after they emailed Southeastern) to send the money to IPFAS.

They are after the penalty fare plus two lots of admin charges as well. I cannot get through to the two people I have been trying to contact, whether that is because of deliberate blocking or they really are not there I do not know. I will try later on, or tomorrow.

Why do you keep printing £2.30? As they have waived the fine/admin costs and IPFAS have banked the money, then I do not owe them £60. What would they prosecute me for - not paying admin charges/penalty fare that they were going to refund me anyway? --- old post above --- --- new post below ---...

It would be the "temporary loss" of £60 which is the PFN [plus admin charges. However, there has been a development. I have just spoken with Southeastern, but I have not been able to speak directly to either of the two people who should have phoned me yesterday. The person on reception...

thanks for that less than helpful comment.:roll: I assume that you always pay for things which you should't, and let people walk all over you? --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Exactly.

A long phonecall yesterday to Southeastern - largely holding on for 16 minutes, where I was asked to phone back today - which I did twice. Both times I was told someone would call me back - which they did not - what a surprise. Today, I was holding on for 39 minutes - words fail me!

I was instructed to send payment to IPFAS in the email to me by Transport Focus - which I duly did. Yes, I am reluctant to send another cheque for £3.20 to a different party for the reasons which you have stated. I have phoned Southeastern today, and I have a couple of names to contact...

Yes, that is the logic which I am applying here. It should also be noted that in the email which I received from Transport Focus, Southeastern had decided to waive the penalty fare/fine, which tells me that it was invalid to start with - as others on this thread have alluded to. I was from...

I decided that there was no valid reason for me to send £60 plus £3.20 to IPFAS, because I cannot afford to shell out that money on something which I should not have to pay. I therefore decided to send £3.20 which is what I owe - not a penny more or a penny less, unless of course you take into...

I was instructed by Transport Focus to pay IPFAS, which I did on 13th April.

I am also struggling with this Martin. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- I have indeed, it was sent to a Mr Saunders at IPFAS on 13th April. Mr Saunders has not confirmed receipt of that as yet. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- I really do not see how any sane...

This is why I sent the payment to IPFAS. I received this from Transport Focus on 11/4 . "Hi Andy, Southeastern have asked that you make your payment directly to IPFAS via their website (www.penaltyfares.co.uk), by telephone (0871 559 2997), or by post. As soon as this payment is made IPFAS...

I have phoned on three occasions in the past couple of weeks (because there has been no response to my email) but have only been able to leave answerphone messages for Chloe, which have not been returned - I also have an answerphone. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- How on earth...

I see that you have now resorted to thinly veiled sarcasm. You have totally ignored the fact that I have already sent a cheque for the fare to IPFAS. I have also written a covering letter with that cheque to a Jason Saunders at IPFAS stating why I do not believe the penalty fare was valid, and...