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  1. kieron

    Reading to Cambridge Area

    It is the fare check rule. Cambridge is a valid routeing point, so you can travel into Cambridge on any valid route and then back out to Shelford. There are only two permanent easements which mention Shelford, and both of them are negative. 700119 (Circuitous Route) Customers travelling from...
  2. kieron

    FB code, Thameslink and Great Northern

    You're not missing out on anything by sticking with the London Thameslink tickets. All of the Royston-London Bridge ones cost exactly the same amount as them.
  3. kieron

    Break of journey involving a change of line

    Glasgow-Falkirk High-Falkirk Grahamston-Edinburgh is valid. The data the web sites use includes a link between Falkirk High and Falkirk Grahamston (something which is shown on brtimes.com), and an itinerary which uses that link can be found on nre.co.uk*. For your other routes in Scotland, I...
  4. kieron

    LNWR/TfW Ticket Marked 'Northern'

    That may have been the plan, but a few Euston trains are scheduled to stop in Reading, Didcot or Oxford for one reason or another. That's on 17th November, anyway. It is a non-issue, though. London-Manchester via Reading is slow, even compared with the LNR offering, so the number of people...
  5. kieron

    Glasgow-Edinburgh: Pricing oddity for Off-Peak Single (1st Class) and Two Together Railcard

    FCR and ORF are two of the ticket codes used for this; FRX, FSO and OPF are others. Each forbids a different set of railcards, although ORF seems to be more of an outlier than any of the others with respect to "national" railcards. Not allowing a 1st class ticket to be offered with a Priv...
  6. kieron

    National Routeing Guide update

    Some changes were published in the routeing guide on Wednesday. Changes from 27 Sep 2024 (523) to 02 Oct 2024 (524). Easement changes: Removed: 701180 (Routeing Point) During engineering works between the 24 and 27 and 22 to 26 April March 2024, tickets from Evesham, Pershore and...
  7. kieron

    Routing/Ticketing advice, Grimsby to Farnborough

    Grimsby-Farnborough, Farnborough-Reading & Reading-Grimsby singles would cost £151.40 in total. If you know which trains you need on the way out, you may be able to save further with an Advance ticket. I've sent you a message with a couple of other suggestions, but I didn't find any major savings.
  8. kieron

    Clapham Junction to West Drayton TFL single fare finder

    The current restriction appears on a lot of journeys from Clapham Junction, including ones to zone 1 stations like Paddington. To me, it appears to be more about discouraging people from catching a train towards Victoria or Waterloo from Clapham Junction, rather than entering zone 1 at all. I...
  9. kieron

    Routing/Ticketing advice, Grimsby to Farnborough

    There are other combinations of tickets (anytime singles each way between Grimsby and Farnborough would work), but I don't know of any return tickets which would let you travel via either London or Birmingham to Farnborough via Reading, Just to clarify, is your position that the journey on...
  10. kieron

    Super Off-Peak tickets are valid on this service if...

    Avanti set some fares between stations south of Rugby and stations outside the Network Area, including a few from Milton Keynes. They usually use their own restriction codes for this, but (again, usually) do it in a way which respects the Network Rule. It's in their interests to do so. If you...
  11. kieron

    National Routeing Guide update

    Some more changes were published in the routeing guide yesterday. Changes from 25 Sep 2024 (522) to 27 Sep 2024 (523). Permitted Route changes: Grantham (GRA) to Llandudno Junction (LLJ) gain DL+PR+JG lose DL+PR+JO This journey no longer has mapped routes which go via Chesterfield, Wilmslow and...
  12. kieron

    National Routeing Guide update

    Some more changes were published in the routeing guide on Wednesday. Changes from 11 Sep 2024 (521) to 25 Sep 2024 (522). Permitted Route changes: Grantham (GRA) to Llandudno Junction (LLJ) gain DL+PR+JO DL+PR+MJ These journeys now have mapped routes via Chesterfield. This change doesn't let...
  13. kieron

    SWR - Take a longer route on a season ticket?

    If you had had a season ticket between Winchester and Swanwick, there wouldn't have been the same problem, as that would have let you travel via Fareham or via Southampton. The simplest way to show this is probably to look at the results on the Southern web site (here), where the 9:09 is via...
  14. kieron

    Milton Keynes <> Sheffield

    One thing to note is that the data for "via Chesterfield" fares has an extra restriction to say that journeys may not be from, to or via Milton Keynes Central. It's still valid on that route (as it's only in data which isn't shown to the customer), but this may make it harder to prove. If you...
  15. kieron

    Reading to Pontarddulais via Shrewsbury?

    The National Rail planner usually looks for the fastest route, which may be valid with a through ticket or may not. Something you could try, if it doesn't find any valid routes, is to change your request to try to stop it from giving the routes it does. For your request, you could try asking...
  16. kieron

    National Routeing Guide update

    Some changes were published in the routeing guide on Wednesday. Changes from 04 Sep 2024 (520) to 11 Sep 2024 (521). Easement changes: Removed: 700116 (Local) Customers travelling from March, Manea, Kennett,Bury St Edmunds, Thurston and Elmswell to or via Ely, may travel via Cambridge. This...
  17. kieron

    Liverpool to Euston but return from High Wycombe

    If you don't need to go by train from London to High Wycombe, you may prefer to buy a Liverpool-High Wycombe return with a route of "via Banbury", and pay the excess to go via London on your way to High Wycombe. The ticket should cost £56.25, plus another £11.30 to change the route of the...
  18. kieron

    Double double back

    I don't know what logic either web site uses, but one aspect is that they only know that a train is due to go through a station because they're given data which says it does, and the data doesn't include every station a train goes through. Some stations are listed whenever a train goes through...
  19. kieron

    National Routeing Guide update

    Some changes were published in the routeing guide yesterday. Changes from 21 Aug 2024 (519) to 04 Sep 2024 (520). Easement changes: Added: 701258 (Map) Due to engineeering works between Byfleet & New Haw and Clapham junction on the 07 and 08 September 2024, some journeys are impacted by...
  20. kieron

    What times are Super Off Peak - can I get an earlier train?

    The answer to that is that the itinerary isn't based on the ticket only being valid using trains passing through Warminster and Salisbury. Instead it's based on it being valid on trains which pass through Warminster or Salisbury, but don't pass through Newbury or Swindon. This makes the route...

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