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Yes but the 180s are notoriously unreliable. You'd be lucky to have two of four units available for traffic, and they frequently suffered transmission issues.

There's a cab ride video from York to Manchester on You Tube from July 2026. The video poster did a similar video in August 2025. Interesting to compare the two. Here is the link to the latest video

How does Hitachi's maintenance and repair planning regime compare to what is done elsewhere and what issues does this lead to? Would hiring in the 221's really be an issue for train crew? Are they that different? Would Class 221 reliability be great as seen by other types of unit struggling to...

Some interesting ideas suggested by Green Signals expert Richard Bowker to remedy the current situation with the 222's including: 1. Seek additional maintenance from Alstom Central Rivers 2. Separate maintenance for 810's and 222's 3. Try and get as many 222's into traffic - though arguably...

As long as the toilets are working, the 810'a offer a more passenger friendly environment than the 222's - which are in a tired state. However, when I have been aboard an 810 there is more of a nagging doubt as to whether it will reach it's destination without a fault. Don't think I had a...

The net working times are not achieved by 222's or 810's north of Leicester. There is a deficit of up to four mins in one direction and three mins in the other for 810's and a minute less for 222's. The only way any service can keep the timetable is to recoup the time loss using up engineering...

Some Interesting points made by Richard Bowker on Green signals on what the options might be to remedy the situation : includes separating maintenance of 810 and 222 fleets and sit down with Hitachi to work out a reasonable plan for remedying the faults and allowing additional time for this...

With only eight motored axles, the 810 needed fewer, more powerful motors than other Class 80x and what is fitted may be the closest match from the Hitachi Rail's motor catalogue. The motors can only be fed with the current available from OLE through the transformer or diesel engines...

There is a clear reduction in acceleration based on how many engines are running. So if one of four engines fails, then the acceleration rate matches what would be expected of a 3-engined set rather than a slight reduction due to other engines increasing in power level. And that seems to reflect...

I understand 735kw is the absolute maximum the engines are capable of. However, Hitachi / MTU seem to have tuned the engines outputs to meet a specific acceleration / reliability requirement - which is not publicly stated. A similar situation exists with the original 80x fleets - particularly...

No. The 810's motors produce faster acceleration in electric mode than a healthy Class 222 on all five engines. So there cannot be a deficit in power output of the eelctric motors

The performance being developed at the rail indicated by the acceleration achieved from each station stop suggests the Class 810 engines are detuned to much lower levels than the maximum quoted outputs. At maximum diesel engine output on diesel they should be able to deliver up to 10% better...

Was it solely unit issues or were there any infrastructure issues disrupting the MML today?

Did Greater Anglia ever run 3 x Class 360 consists? They certainly ran 3 x 321's coupled together. How is that unsafe?

The 07:12 from Nottingham to St Pancras cancelled as a result of apparent 222 non availability.

How many units are required for the reduced timetable and what is the split between 222's and 810 requirement?

What role did Central Rivers play in providing additional maintenance to what was being done at Etches Park? And when did that end?

Hopefully that would be an aspiration. However an idling engine does not mean it is providing traction power as I experienced a few times. Those engines seem to initially respond to the call for power with a slight rise in revs but revert back to idling. Is the plan for Long Marston to clear...

Do we know how many diagrams are currently allocated to Class 810s and 222's? Looks like only three 810's out today so far.

EMR MD Will Rogers reported to have left his post at EMR today.