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Certainly agree there - the only truth will be when it all happens and it's been going for at least 6 months. Then we can begin to assess what it looks like. However, the caution I have is that any HST failures will be leapt upon by those against them in the first place for whatever reason...

Indeed, no-one is claiming they are all-new, or even as good as new (whatever that actually means). The general point of the analogy is that the "40 year old cast off trains" label - taking "train" as the whole thing - patently isn't valid either.

I see SR have officially mentioned the "Trigger's Broom" analogy on one of the Twitter feeds.... :D ScotRail‏Verified account @ScotRail Aug 19 Replying to @DaveFleming68 @trafficscotland Much like triggers broom, parts replaced throughout the life of the train. They'll allow us to reintroduce...

Isn't that the whole point of this debate though? That, as long as they are reliable and compared to what we have now, the HST intro can't fail?

Are you able to find out when she travelled? It would be very interesting, just as a snapshot, to find out what the "posh train" was.

It will be interesting to see how much of a fanfare, or otherwise, SR make of the first operational HST service in the coming weeks. It could go either way between quietly slipping the first one into service and waiting to see what happens operationally, and what the public reaction is, vs. a...

If you asked "the man on the street" that specific question then, yes, most would probably reply that they don't. They've probably never even thought of it before. In my experience, most people don't know one train from another, let alone where the engines are on them. They just want a pleasant...

Reading the above, it might be a blessing in disguise that the delays in the coach refurbishment by Wabtec will be the limiting factor to the HST introduction - giving time for everyone (SR, the public, everyone) to "get the hang" of them. I would suggest that it's imperative that SR get...

Reading through the above it seems clear that given the massive changes coming along with the full HST intro, SR are going to have to a bit imaginative and "left field thinking" about how they (at least) initially structure tickets and pricing to ensure the uplift in capacity is actually used...

Couldn't agree more. Even from the limited info to date, it looks like the difference in the travelling experience is going to be monumental. Once people get a taste of an HST, particularly regular commuters used to being stuffed on 170s etc, the cries of "we want more" are likely to build. It's...

Indeed re social media, and certain sections of the Scottish press. As mentioned earlier here there are various significant PR and party-political perils very likely to occur if the HST service intro falters, even a little bit. Personally I'd rather see a measured and thoughtful intro of the HST...

Thanks, yes of course it had to start somewhere, just wondered why.

Great news, certainly look the part from the outside. Obviously one route has to be first, but are there any specific technical or strategic reasons why Edinburgh/Aberdeen is the first route to be worked by them?

I stand to be corrected, but this must be very unusual, or perhaps unprecedented, as a project where such a large number of trains of this age are refurbished and redeployed in the way that is happening here? So, surely, it's important to keep an open mind until or unless there is evidence...

Thanks. Heh heh, back-to-back Scotail HST power cars wandering around Devon just about sums up how the project is going....

Can I ask why they might be doing that re their eventual introduction in Scotland? Sorry, I'm new here and I don't understand the ins and outs of such movements (having had to look up where Brush and Laira are.....).

All things considered and taking account of the above info and comments, it's getting to the point now that I suspect there are significant legal proceedings afoot, being held in private due to their commercial sensitivity. At this sort of time you can forget any 3rd party stakeholders such as...

Probably never a good time for it - but this area, and most of Scotland it seems, is absolutely heaving with tourists right now. Just a balance between minimal disruption and, hopefully, having reasonable weather to get it done.

Thanks. I noticed some surveying going on there a couple of months ago. Didn't think anything of it at the time, but no doubt that's what it was about.