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True. Freight has rebounded very strongly and is effectively booming and with passenger numbers also recovering (to 92% on the 22 May) rail is growing once again not shrinking

Hs2 will help with freight capacity in the business case for Phase 1 it is assumed off peak there will be 4tph for freight and then in peak times that will be used for passenger services and places like Tring will recieve alot more services during the peak hours.

On the 22 May 2022, the DfT's own figures suggest passenger numbers reached 92% of pre-covid levels overall with many long-distance operators from what I have heard well ahead of pre-pandemic levels as they rely less on business and commuting and more on leisure (which is doing very well...

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I meant from May 2023, yes from the autumn it will be Shenfield terminating at Paddington thats a given.

I imagine it will be a mix of Shenfield and Abbey wood services going west. So some Abbey wood services terminating at Paddington and some Shenfield. I think it will be closer to londonist

What?? They will just cut the service or run a reduced service. Plus crossrail is far more prepared and more advanced than Thameslink and doesnt have to deal with other operators on its line very much (only GWR during off-peak i think). 1654180848 So it’s unlikely to be as bad as Thameslink as...

Dont think that alternative is likely to happen at all. 1654179807 I cant see all services at Shenfield permanently terminating at Paddington??? Sure that’s the plan from Autumn 2022 until May 2023 but beyond that no i cant some will yes but not all

Ah ok make sense. How many stations have crossovers for reversal?

Services will run beyond Paddington end of…. About half of services will terminate at Paddington but that was always planned. About 12tph will continue west of Paddington.

But it is happening. There will be services from Reading to Shenfield 1654173258 Thats not why there are services from Reading Shenfield!!!!!!!! Most people will be travelling from the stations to Central London and from Central London to the stations on those branches so it will be well used.

First statement is wrong. There are plans to run Reading to Shenfield from May 2023!!!!

The answer as to could it be built in the future, is no. It would be too much hassle and just wouldn't be worth the cost.

They aren't. The former is Heathrow Airport Holdings owned the other is TfL owned but only between Highbury and New Cross/New Cross Gate i think

That’s gonna be a big one. Liverpool to Cleethorpes is coming then.

Yes 1651444388 Just wondering when they will extend to Crumpsall

The line has been finished to Crumpsall, just wondering when it will be extended as planned to Crumpsall.

we dont need a vote on Headbolt Lane

In the union connectivity review it was proposed to be scrapped in favour of a connection South of Preston

There isn’t an extra path on the hope valley or at Manchester 1649268958 Also no capacity at London St Pancras either