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Can I add that despite being a daily rail traveller and a member of this forum that I honestly didn't know about the above (the barriers cancelling the outward ticket when using the return if as what happened to me with the disruption at Shipley, the outward ticket was never used). At least I...

I had a Northern conductor conduct a ticket check on my train yesterday?

No ticket check on my two Northern trains in and out of Leeds this morning. It would appear the decision to check and sell tickets is at the sole discretion of the conductor rather than them being told to do it.

Is there a rule not to leave the cab on an evening? When I think about it, I can’t say I’ve ever seen a conductor do a ticket check on a Northern service after 8pm. That’s a serious observation by the way.

I can also report a full ticket check on my Northern train this morning. Great news.

Yeah, that is correct mate. The driver would just drive past the end of the platform to ensure the conductor can open the doors safely.

They do that with the double 158s on the Darlington to Saltburn route. Conductor uses the middle of the train.

Three people have died. My thoughts are with their family and friends. Harrowing.

Thoughts are with those fighting for their lives. Terrible tragedy.

Can they do that? The gate line staff at Bradford Forster Square scanned my code and knew it hadn’t been used on the barriers but couldn’t work out why it was activated at 12:30pm and being used at 10:00pm. Northern haven’t made any of this clear have they? I certainly didn’t know that you...

It's quite clear from experiences of myself and others that the gate line staff don't know the correct ticket procedures. Of course, I wasn't dodging a fare, I had a ticket that I hadn't used up to that point from Shipley to Bradford.

Appreciate your advice and also from the others who have suggested using the e-ticket alternatives like train split.

Once I was told to activate the ticket on the app I couldn't use the refund button because the ticket was activated. That's why I used it in the evening because I'd paid for something I'd not used.

It was an M-ticket and I'd already been told to activate the outward portion by the Northern revenue staff at Shipley to get past them and on to the platform. The member of revenue staff and I quote said: ”you need to activate your ticket before getting on the train.” I still believe I acted...

I never knew that condition existed. So no victory for common sense? No disruption easements?

They wouldn't because the ticket would be valid and the barriers would capture it regardless of the time of purchase. I'm sure some on here might disagree with using the return portion first and the outward portion second but I don't see anything wrong with it especially when disruption to...

But I never made the first journey so in effect the ticket should still be valid as would be the case if I have had bought paper tickets. I don't see anything in the rules that would have stopped me from doing the return first and outward second in the evening?

Ah, cheers, yes it had to be activated and for the stress it caused I'll be using paper tickets from now on. I can see why on activation they would assume it has been used but obviously incidents like yesterday when there is a disruption to services don't always mean that you can use it.

Hi everyone, I'm looking for some advice after an uncomfortable experience at the barriers at Forster Square station yesterday evening in which I was accused of abusing my ticket. I was travelling from Shipley to Bradford at around 12:30 and bought an off-peak day return £2.80 e ticket from the...

Clearly, he's happy with his staff then. Unbelievable.