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I believe the scrap value of the couplings is more than the scrap value of the actual locos isnt it? :lol: As you seem to have had to endure these things, did you ever come across the problem of the stupid speedos not working on a nice cold winters morning? Apparently you have to let the cab...

Oh come on, be fair. It was only about £44.89m more surely?:lol:

Not a problem at all. In fact, id go one extra, just for you Northerners. Send the Pacers themselves to Virgin, and you can have the bendy pendies. At least then you have stock for Liverpool to Manchester. Id be more likely to travel on the WCML as well. Pacers to Glasgow:D Ah, fantastic.

OK, how about i cant decide on what is correct or not? I know you keep saying one thing, but I have also heard different from elsewhere. I am by no means disregarding what you say, but I am hearing different things from different people, all of which apparently know what they are talking...

I dont know. I wasnt privvy to the design process of them. I can only go by what i have seen, both on here and elsewhere. Nobody seems to have a definitive answer. Time for Mr Brush!!

319s- Marvellous units! Although could do with a bit of a refurb. Electrostars- Good, but a bit characterless.

Not sure theres any evidence of anything. Some claim to have seen them go 75 (I have no idea on that one). I myself have seen it mentioned elsewhere by people in the know, that they have the gearing for it, but are restricted by something else. You dont believe either one because the manual...

So your saying the Chiltern 68s will be hired in from DRS? Or are they leasing direct from Beacon? I heard elsewhere that the Chiltern/ DB 68s werent going to be DRS examples. ie would be leased from some leasing company or another.

Should we forget all about this tender though? I will throw another option into the ring, courtesy of a poster over on A.N.Other forum. Chiltern will be taking their own 68s (8 of, not 15). These wont be DRS examples (im assuming leased through somebody, but dont know who). They will be in use...

Certainly did. Bet they wouldnt want them running at that speed too often!! --- old post above --- --- new post below --- I dont think so. Apparently they would be a pain to re gear. Could be wrong though.

My physics needs updating i suspect. Anyways, all im saying is yes, they only go 60, and yes, they have never officially gone faster than 60 in service, but 'apparently' it is not gearing that is stopping them going faster. Just like it isnt gearing thats stopping a 91 going 140. Its been...

Be interesting to see if 66s remain great value for money if fuel prices go up anymore.

We keep hearing how DRS and Colas are run by enthusiasts, but there was me thought enthusiasts didnt like 47s??:D:twisted: --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Not now they wont go above 63, as they no doubt have limiters on. However they are geared for 75. Just depends whether it...

I think it depends what railman you speak to, as to what answer you get. However, I have heard from more than one person who works with them, that 60s are geared for 75mph. They will haul all but the heaviest loads at up to this speed (they dont have the power to reach this speed with the...

Excuse the question, as i havent been keeping fully up to date on this subject, but where is the extra rolling stock coming from for the hourly service? Last i heard ATW would need extra stock to run this. One of the reasons for it taking so long i thought.

Competition does benefit passengers. London to Brum, you now have the choice of 3 very different types of services. If there was no competition, then what? Bendy Pendies only? That choice is a benefit. Certainly if like me you cant stand the bendy trains. Massive benefit. Also, competition...

Ignoring your own figures of 200 passengers per train. Theres a reason Chiltern services have less carriages. Its because they carry less passengers. Therefore, assuming the number of passengers per carriage (on average) is the same, then there is a greater chance of a table with Chiltern. Im...

Hence why i ignored LM and took the Birmingham area as a whole. Then i could include the big dirty freight locos and the ancient carriages. See, the North definitely has it good. What, another one? Crikey, the north is swimming in lovely powerful trains, and on such short journeys as...

Probably to make sure their point is always right. To help them try and prove that the north is awful and everywhere else is amazing. In reality, its a simple case of 'I dont like pacers', but it makes people feel better if they can make out they are hard done by . --- old post above --- ---...

I was using this specific rolling stock to prove a point. That its swings and roundabouts, and you can always use examples to try and prove a point if you so need. The 'dirty freight loco' came from the article in Scotland about the dirty freight locos operating round the Fife Circle, and fitted...