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Thanks so much.

Thanks so much, I'll check that.

1689441670 Thanks so much. I have just managed to find that the Bugsworth box was indeed the Ladypit one. But I must check all these newspaper stories including Manchester, to try to pull all these things together.

Yes indeed, that's what started me off on the research. It seems clear that there was only one box at Peak Forest, one at Chapel, Chinley is not mentioned but had to have a box as it had a goods yard, one at Bugsworth (which I believe can only have been the one that controlled the sidings into...

I have been researching the story of a double crash and double runaway between Dove Holes and New Mills in September 1867. A runaway cattle train hit a Manchester to Buxton non-stop express at New Mills. Happily, this had been halted by a timely message to New Mills Goods box from Bugsworth box...

That's very interesting. Thanks so much. So it was obviously in any case a long planned joint endeavour, and realistically, the Midland was surely the senior partner. New Mills etc always felt very Midland in style.

Thanks John, very grateful for idea.

Thanks for your thoughts. Yes, the MS&LR was the first there, though would benefit by having a lot more traffic from the Midland. From I think abou 1870, the two railways set up a joint committee to run the line, guess a bit like Cheshire Lines later. The full accident report certainly appears...

Hope a student of signalling history may have some ideas on this. Back in 1867, the MR had just opened the Buxton-New Mills route as their way into Manchester. By agreement with the M&SLR, they accessed Manchester from New Mills onwards was on M&SLR tracks. The signalboxes the MR installed on...

Thanks Andrew. I'm sure you are right. The cab roof looks to have been modified compared with your photo, but everything else matches. It has to be a North Staffordhire loco, and I'd looked around but couldn't find anything. Much appreciate your help.

This photo was posted on Facebook recently - the Tutbury Jinny (or Jinnie, or Jenny) shuttle between Burton and Tutbury. But what is the loco? Thanks.

Just to mention that the Liverpool and Manchester Trust have been posting interesting, and in some cases newly discovered documentation on their Facebook page, some of it going right back to the very beginning. Best wishes Tony

Just sharing a couple of resources I found which you may not be aware of: 1) LNWR 22-page booklet of 1908 listing boat trains to Liverpool Riverside, as attached file 2) LMS 1939 entire summer timetable, as an archived book at https://archive.org/details/1939LMS/page/n1 Best wishes Tony

Thanks Dr Hoo. Really helpful. By the way, as I see you are in Hope Valley, I used to live in Chinley in the 50s and 60s and coming back from school late would use a Hope Valley train from New Mills to Chinley.

Thanks Guys, that fills in the picture. Very grateful. Might I also ask what the service from Hartford Greenbank to Chester and Manchester looked like, once that line and station had opened in, I understand 1870?

Mega thanks, that's really helpful.

Hi Does anyone have knowledge of how many trains a day, and their journey times, there would have been from Hartford to Liverpool and back in the 1860s on the WCML. And I presume that before the Chester to Mancheaster line was opened, with the Greenbank Station in Hartford, the only easy way...

Thanks both. Much appreciated.

Thanks so much Bevan, that's wonderfully helpful. Very grateful. That gives a really good sense of transport from the village. I found a nice shot of a Birmingham to Derby train, dated just a little later than my specific time period relating to local history, but probably identical loco and...

Thanks again Dr Hoo. I thought I might get hold of a copy of the 1895 reprint, but find not a single secondhand (or new) copy available online anywhere just now! Please, might I ask, what was the journey time in those days for Willington to Derby. I'm guessing it was just about twice the current...