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Thats harsh that. To be honest I like what Manchester does by converting all the old warehouses and mills into apartments or offices, good to see that we stay true to our heritage, we're a city built on industry, we were the worlds first industrial city, and Manchester along with other northern...

Basically what nerd said. Thought that was the reason why, but apparantly it wouldn't have obstructed anything anyway

Na, its pointless, cos i am aware how much Underground trains can cost, i alos read somewhere once the reason Manchester never went ahead and built an underground was because there is something already existing there that they can't build through/past, so if thats the case its pointless, plus...

Exactly mate, ludicrous is the word, cos there's not thousands of smaller cities all around the world that have less commuters yet still have an underground rail service and tram service are there

I honestly don't see what your problem is, you relaise this wasn't a serious suggestion, people are taking this far too seriously and just need to get a life, it was a map that i designed out of boredom on paint, that has somehow managed to turn into a major talking point that people are...

Christ, touch a nerve did I. You clearly work for the Met. And to be honest if you'd decided to read from the beginning you would see that I proposed having an Underground along side the Met, not replacing it as you said. If you look at the map on the first page you'll see that. So maybe you...

Thanks by the way for eveyones input, who would have thought a map created on paint could have created such a talking point. Manchester Airport has several advantages over every airport in London except Heathrow anyway, the fact it has land to expand upon, the fact it has 2 runways already...

Not really, 100 miles inbetween Brum and London and like i say similarish distance between Liverpool and Leeds, and I reckon Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds combined potentially offer more to the nation than Birmingham will. I mean London will always be the biggest city so i don't see the...

Are Covent Garden and Charring Cross on the same line though? No. Are Market St and Piccadilly? Yes. That was my point. And alright let every city be judged on its merits, but that's why we'll just get left behind as a nation. We can't continuously rely upon London to be this major centre...

Again though have you ever used the Met, to me when its quicker to walk its kind of pointless, it's quicker to walk from Piccadilly station to Market street than get the tram. And like i say the fact it has to go through the centre at about 5mph isn't efficient when you have the London...

Having lots of people isn't a reason for Mass transport like an Underground system? What is then?

Also in response to that they may have larger populations within their City council areas, but the CITY of Manchester has about 500'000 people there, it's a tiny area though, like the CITY of London actually has a population of about 7'000 only but London takes in all the other areas around it...

Yes, several if you need them http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18853714 http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1425494_mapped-population-hits-a-high-as-thousands-flock-to-manchester#...

Well for several reasons, 1st being as I said the metrolink is terrible, the buses not too bad, but during rush hour it can take around 1 hour just to go 4-5 miles to get into the City. Manchester also has the fastest growing population in the UK, and could do with a transport system to support...

Well its never going to happen, but it needs an Underground train system, bearing in mind London also has a tram around Croydon and also has the LDR, as well as the London Underground, if Manchester wants to grow as a city it needs something more than the Met, which as i say is pretty poor

Ye the trams **** mate, all the new lines basically run along roads, which means they have hardly any speed, its also very unreliable, if you're on twitter and you follow men media there's at least 1 or 2 incidents a day of one of the lines failing, usually the Bury line. And also New Mills...

Main reason Manchester will struggle to become world class is because of its lack of underground train. If anyone from the City council figures a way of building one and is reading this, you can use my template if you like for a fee :)

Ye fair point, and that was the main reason I was curious actually was because they use those Intercity units still and I think they're well class, pretty nifty for the size of them and considering how old they are. Well i've applied to FTPE before and been rejected applied to Northern now...

Oh right, to be honest that was pretty much what i was wondering, so thanks for that, why is that? Is it just because they're an intercity company, cos Virgin and Arriva crosscountry don't take on trainees either do they?

Ok, thanks a lot RJ, just cos i'm in York at the moment, and i'm not sure if they have a depot here but loads of East Coast trains operate out of York. What magazines/newspapers did you see it in? And do the do all their applications for drivers written still then instead of over the internet...