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  1. StrollerEd

    bridge designer/engineer

    just spent pleasant few hours on train with retired bridge builder for railways. crossed a few of his as we sped North on the 18.00 from KX
  2. StrollerEd

    London North Eastern Railway (LNER) First Class service

    traveling North on FC EC. enjoyed generous helping of salmon with veg and pots. reasonable glass of white had to wait until York for second - but both were generous
  3. StrollerEd

    Railcard dropped onto track - will she have got it back?

    Getting all the ducks lined up with signals, re-routing to platforms and a staff member 'qualified' for track duty might take time, so from a passenger pov, in light of possible extended delay: 1. dropped ticket/pass - would the staff on hand be able to issue a temporary ticket/pass that the...
  4. StrollerEd

    London North Eastern Railway (LNER) First Class service

    OK, I wan't really feeling guilty. But just reporting no fuss over the 70 min 'rule'. Just a pleasant experience. Having taken detour to Thetford, I'm due to travel up from Grantham to Edinburgh later today, so will report in then. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- late joining...
  5. StrollerEd

    London North Eastern Railway (LNER) First Class service

    on 09.30 out of KX in FC on EC. coffee came promptly, wifi working altho not full strength (wifi not the coffee) prompt ticket collection, and also offer of breakfast - altho only going to Peterborough. Opted for the fruit bowl due to feeling of guilt of several kinds.
  6. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    Could I ask the original poster, EltonRoad to say: * where this bridge is, and how far it is from either station * how long it was between when they were seen crossing the bridge and when the train came along I wonder who they were and what led them to make the decision to do what they did. I...
  7. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    FS - Flying Scotman as to the latter, I will try and find you the thread link --- old post above --- --- new post below --- http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=51543
  8. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    suggest you re-read my post more carefully. Reference to FS was not as you infer, and was prelude to indicating that there may be "tampers, ballast trains and VSTP movements" and other things that would cause harm... For the record, would the orginal poster pl tell us how much time actually...
  9. StrollerEd

    A trespassing enthusiast...

    Just viewed those videos - esp the first. See much virtue in getting the message out via Soaps and other popular TV progs.
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    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    I guess the nature of this forum is to take care not to have passengers descend into anti-staff remarks - and also vice versa. And as there was hesitation about 'reporting' a staff member doing what is shouldn't - with reference to the blind eye of the wise - so I have hesitated to 'report'...
  11. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    No I am not arguing for arguments sake, but to try to say that the focus should be on what is reasonable not just on legislation. Agreed that ignorance of the law is no defence but if the norm is a right to roam, and there are no fences, and the trains are very seldom, and it is miles out...
  12. StrollerEd

    London North Eastern Railway (LNER) First Class service

    I recall traveling back on evening and having to co-exist with an already well-oiled crowd - in both SC and FC - going North from a day out at the York Races. In a pub, resturant or some similar, their custom could be refused - how easily when "its in the ticket". Mind you asking them to...
  13. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    OK. I'm not working, I'm half watching a TV programme about the Normans, so I will let you get back to other matters. However, the Law does not stop still, and over the centuries it has changed - very often because it was challenged. And when two Laws appear to be in conflict, the judiciary...
  14. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    I did do Latin at school but was hopeless at it. That said, in answer to your question (if my earlier - crossed - post does not): Quam rationabilis debet esse finis, non definitur, sed omnibus circumstantiis inspectis pendet ex justiciariorum discretione. What a reasonable fine ought to be is...
  15. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    Reductio ad absurdum doesn't help imho. It is all about reasonable behaviour. What you should signpost is a matter of judgement (in the non-legal meaning). --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Say that there is a law that we drive on the left, not the right side of the road, and...
  16. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    :lol: perhaps, but this is surely not only about the letter of the Law. The mindset wrt 'trespass' is different in Scotland and it would appear sensible to use notices to make the exceptions plain. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- BTW, I am in against the trend twowards...
  17. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    Rannoch is in Scotland Although I for one will admit not to being a member of the judiciary - I never had the Latin as Dud once put it - the point of my post was to advise against loose talk of trespass as though this generally applied - it doesn't. So IMHO, it would be sensible to make plain...
  18. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    that I admit, but since the general position is a right to roam, as enshrined in land reform legislation passed in 2003 by the Scottish Parliament, then prohibition to walk across Network Rail property is an exception that requires some form of notice - if only to bring the exception to the...
  19. StrollerEd

    More trespassers - Rannoch Viaduct

    Scotland does not have a comparable law of trespass. One can walk legally without a 'public right of way'. The Trespass (Scotland) Act 1865 restricts itself to restricting lodging, occupation and encampment; there is otherwise a general right to roam.
  20. StrollerEd

    London North Eastern Railway (LNER) First Class service

    is the USP of FC travel really unlimited booze? another flaw in the complimentary catering offering methinks, which risks upsetting other passengers who have paid for FC to have peace and quiet.

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