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Or they don't know the difference between FGW and First Transpenine Express?

Has there been any consideration given to removing the Reading call completely?

Excellent news :D

The clue is in the name. TOD = ticket(s) on departure. If their machine malfunctions it is their responsibility to help you, whatever you may think.

Indeed - surely if you're not quite certain about a ticket's validity, the one thing you don't do is deny someone travel out of hand? This reminds me somewhat of the thread a while back about Virgin refusing to accept Boundary Zone tickets with an Oyster travelcard.

I have seen nothing advertised about this at all either. I even challenged a guard on my train from Buxton a couple of weeks ago with "I hear they're getting rid of these soon" after I'd shown him my Evening Return, and he claimed to know nothing about it.

How do the new rules work with long distance Off-Peak Returns e.g. London - Buxton? If you got the last off-peak train (1500?) from Euston, that would put your change to the Buxton service at Stockport in the middle of the evening peak. Would you need two tickets in this instance?

Your ticket would be issued to "Manchester Stations" rather than a specific station, and does not include any tram validity as far as I am aware.

It's ridiculous that this is the case - fundamentally, when the mistake is not the passenger's, it should need to be no business of theirs how the accounting is or isn't dealt with - the ticket issuing staff should find a way to fix the problem, and not say "Oh, because you paid this way, we...

Grrr....now making it a lot harder to have an easy Friday night out in Manchester. By the time you get to Manchester on the first off peak ticket, you've got all of a couple of hours before you have to get the last train! :roll:

Not really, because those kind of people will (generally) have done their outward journey during the morning peak, so have an Anytime ticket/season anyway.

Yes, given that they already (from my experience) sell Evening Returns at the station for that service, and I've never come across a guard that hasn't passed them as valid on the train, even though they aren't officially valid till 18:30.

What are these for?

Chapel-en-le-Frith

Buckland Junction in Dover? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1373144,1.2998532,15z

An example of just how good the Voyager's brakes are! :lol: owmq5q67u_s

Ah, I see...Thanks for the explanation yorkie, it seems I misunderstood the OP! Clearly this could have left the passenger in a sticky situation, but as others have said, thankfully it didn't.

Well, the fact he had both an excess (to an Anytime ticket) and the original ticket, and he had sorted it prior to boarding means that there should never be an issue and what his ticket says (regarding the original booked train) no longer matters. I have to say, I'm not quite sure how this...

Southeastern do have some 2-coach trains - the Class 466s that run on the Sheppey Line.

The Northern machines don't. The Virgin machines (e.g. at Piccadilly) do!