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From my experience, quite the norm. I'm travelling by Eurostar on a regular basis at the moment, and pretty much every train I use is externally filthy.

I agree - the FGW Mk3 refurbishment is, in my eyes, a lesson in how these things should be done.

Many thanks! :)

Does anyone have any idea where we can easily get hold of distances on the French network? Estimating by adding together various bits of routes on Wikipedia is a bit of a nightmare... Thanks! :)

Hmm...well it was a 4 coach unit like the one above, but in both directions it was absolutely packed for me...not impressive, especially compared to the 12-Coach 'Inter-Regional' CFF train I got from Geneva to the airport.

Thanks for replying - is what I feared... :( How busy was the service, out of curiosity?

A quick question for anyone that's up to speed with workings on French railways - I'll be travelling from Chambéry - Geneva and back next Saturday, and am wondering what rolling stock I can expect to form services on this route (I believe that most services to Geneva start from Valence). Many...

A Dacia Duster? :)

Merry Christmas to everyone on the forum, and very best wishes for the New Year! :)

A Hall, maybe? :)

Now that's more like it! :cool: Wonderful cars, both of them.

Any clues? :)

Looks a little like a Triumph Herald...? :)

I play the piano, violin, and viola. :)

It seems to have something of the older Mercedes about it...?

:) Open floor...

A class 15 perhaps? EDIT: Ah, hang on, I think it's that GWR Gas Turbine loco - No. 18000, iirc... :)

I would argue that FGW's HST refurbishment is much underrated, which perhaps has a lot to do with the exceptionally high backs and relative lack of tables, giving the carriage something of the feel a road coach. Having used the trains on a fairly regular basis, though, I've not only found the...

The cost per bus is reported to be comparable (perhaps marginally more) than other double-deck buses using similar hybrid technology. Of course, these first few will have cost a lot more than that, as they are shouldering much of the development cost for the new bus. Once full-scale production...

Perhaps the definition depends on the type of service - for a long distance inter-city or inter-regional service (such as the one in question), then I would agree that if people are standing, the train is 'overcrowded'. If it's a suburban service running into the city in the rush hour, or a...