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I’ve told you what will happens when you put the ball back in the court of the RDG / DFT. If you think it’s as simply as ASLEF putting in a counter offer and it being accepted you’re living in cloud cuckoo land! The DFT know what offer will settle the dispute. They done it with the RMT.

Simply. Ballot held. ASLEF members would reject the offer. The DfT would change the wording of the offer, claim it’s a new offer and demand another ballot Ballot held. ASLEF members would reject the offer. The DfT would change the wording of the offer, claim it’s a new offer and demand...

It can‘t be done online for the same reasons we don’t vote in General Elections online.

Starmer is just a Red Tory. I hope you’re right but I’m not hopeful. 1711188404 We haven’t had movement on negotiations for how long? If ASLEF are going to persist with their current strategy we may as well not strike.

They won’t need to antagonistic, you’ll just get the “we would love to settle this dispute but all these years of Tory rule has left the finances in tatters, far worse than we thought” type of excuse.

I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed drivers out there if they think Labour or any party will solve this dispute. They are all cut from the same cloth. They might make the right noises now but when the time comes, they’ll be little substance. 1711147736 Easily make up an entire...

We may not be costing them anything to strike but we are costing the economy. That brings a lot of other sectors into the dispute who will heap more pressure on the government to resolve. You simply can’t continue to call a days strike once every few months. Thats simply not achieving anything...

They don’t care about it because we’re not costing them enough everytime we strike. ASLEF haven’t done it because they lack the bottle. We’re still doing one day now and again, look at the doctors strike. They’re not afraid to call strikes for longer than 24 hours. You can’t keep doing the...

But it puts a huge amount of pressure on the government to resolve. One day strikes now and again have absolutely no effect, they need to do something that has a bigger financial impact.

But the pressure it would receive from other sectors would be immense. Announce a strike now for the duration of August and you’d decimate tourism and retail.

Because the amount it would cost the economy billions plus the amount the government would have to hand over to TOCs in compensation.

Of course it’s the point! The members would reject the offer and then what happens because I can assure you the DfT/RDG will not reopen negotiations.

Who elects the executive?

The offer has been rejected by ASLEF.

ASLEF members continue to vote YES for Industrial Action because they DO NOT accept the offer made. Why is that difficult for you to understand? They are no position to make those sort of conditions. They make an offer to the Union who represent drivers. Again, if we want to accept that...

The DfT know it’ll be rejected. They’re just using the public. If we want to accept that offer we would simply vote no to any further industrial action. It really is that simple.

ASLEF members continue to vote for strike action. If they wanted to accept the offer they would vote no to industrial action. The DfT don’t want a settlement.

It’s been explained already. Arranging a ballot on the offer costs ASLEF a lot of money. The offer is inevitably rejected by the membership. The RDG/DfT revises its offer by 0.1% and demands another ballot. ASLEF then incurs yet another significant cost and the RDG/DfT can get a few months of...

What was your point about Whelan?

Spot on. 1711055753 But the DfT don’t want to negotiate! You can accept the offer first and then negotiate it later. You’re making no sense.