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You've clearly never worked on that side then, and clearly believe that all NRs big plans and schemes are not "fantasy island' schemes that never come to fruition. They couldn't even get rid of St Helens Station box at the same time as Huyton. Ditton and Edge Hill are still in use despite big...

That's not DOO-P though is it? I drive through AB with ECS. Given how you can't rely on GSM-R to connect you to the correct box even in TCB areas. I.e. getting Slough on the WCML when near Wembley and to say AB will disappear is optimistic at best. Frodsham is still an AB box and it's just...

Probably not, but wouldn't be surprised if this rule got very quickly altered!

Excellent point was made on the wnxx forum the other day. You can't have DOO in Absolute block areas. So have a guess at what services are unable to use it......... (On the west side, it's rather a lot) But for a kickstart, absolutely nothing through Stockport.

It'd be more logical still to have an effective Lancs/Cheshire ticket comprised of the old boundaries, rather than the current setup which seem to be primarily run for the benefit of Manchester and Liverpool alone. The current system is a nuisance in places along the split like Wigan, Warrington...

You mean like what happens on Merseyrail when the drivers refuse to cross it?

You've got to bear in mind that it was created back when BR ran a local Lime St - Crewe AC unit service that stopped at Mossley Hill etc. Whether Ditton was a saveaway station back then I've no idea (Hough green and Hooton were both in Cheshire and could use saveaways). If not Allerton in its...

They're all getting the band now. Latest word from fluffy towers.

You do know that there are circumstances where we need a guard with us right? (Or a competent person according to the rule book where practible) examining OLE for damage for instance. A few occasions I've had them find trespassers when we've been cautioned for them, including a suicide attempt...

Thought you might react to that. I take it you're aware of what went on with the staff that have had to use the defibrillators on our services. Also the time with an XC service where a passenger killed someone, but the staff on board managed to both stop further casualties and prevented him...

You're a guard arent you? Why are you trying to effectively downgrade or sack yourself? Other things are rare too, but we try and protect ourselves against them. Should we mention them while we're at it?

No idea. I was a kid back then doing kid things. Secondly I'm not in the RMT so I can't speak for their actions back then .I presume it's because they weren't the RMT back then. All I can say is that people want drivers to be at 100% performance all the time 24/7 and for that we are well paid...

I remember a driver doing exactly that during the southern debacle over the introduction of 12 car DOO. So drivers did and do think that it is unsafe. If I had my way I would immediately stop 12 car DOO as it's only a matter of time before a major incident happens on one IMO, but seeing as the...

Why were clippies on board? Revenue perchance? If so they were the equivalent of an rpi. Not a guard.

We've thankfully not had a major incident with a 12 car yet. We also have 12 cars that dont run DOO (LNWR) which seem to feature a lot less in the news than Southern, Thameslink etc. Why could that be?

Just by taking driver managers away from their job, you then get drivers losing competency on routes, traction, rules,medicals etc. It works both ways. Plus, this part of the world isnt as beholden to the Mail and the Sun. Especially on Merseyside where people will do the opposite of what 'the...

We will both be worm food by the time that comes round to Knutsford.

Slight flaw in your bus comparison seeing it can't derail and therefore doesn't need to put down emergency protection. Keep attempting, I'll keep laughing off your bus comparison. Plus, I'm not going to insult anyone's intelligence about brakes and stuff, my comparison .was more to do with the...

Not even going there with the bus, but for the plane comparison, I shall have to be more specific seeing as I should have realised someone would use a tiny plane. Let's say something using a 737-800, a 787-900 or even a A380.

I think Bromley Boy has furnished you well enough there, and as has been said enough times already, the money is not an answer, I have no personal desire to help enable my workmates to be got rid of, just so that foreign state rail can earn more money at the expense of safety. Let's turn this...