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I get the feeling that whoever devises the timetables doesn't actually travel by tram. I went for Option 1, it seems the least of the three evils. 'Tramfan' has got the gist of the situation (below). In addition to the saving of the long lie-over at North Station (T3), there would be a similar...

For the record, here are the three options. 1. Have a 15-minute service running from Starr Gate to Fleetwood with every trip serving the extension, this would add 12-minutes to trips going past North Pier in any direction 2. Have a 20-minute service running from Starr Gate to Fleetwood with...

Yes, I'm sure that's what will have happened, or, at least, will have been scheduled to have happened. A 2251 journey from Starr Gate would have covered 2310 Talbot Square - North Station. No, I think that what they said was probably correct. It's hard to see how else it could be worked. It...

As things stand, trams are able to depart North Station, run to the North Pier (Southbound) stop, then return to North Station. So there only needs to be a very short section of the promenade route available for a shuttle service to be provided. Patronage on the Talbot Square to North Station...

I see that the tram operating duty 'D', instead of doing a 21.15 North Station to Starr Gate T2, does 21.30 North Station to Fleetwood T3. Meanwhile the 21.15 arrival ex Fleetwood T3 presumably does 21.28 North Station to Starr Gate T2. Does anyone know why the two trams effectively swap duties...

Using twelve trams, you'd have more waiting time than ever.

I reckon that would need ten trams - i.e. one less than at present! That's because you wouldn't need the long lie-overs at North Station (T3) and Starr Gate (T1). Through passengers might not be too happy about going on a diversion, though - it would add at least six minutes to the journey time...

It's my recollection that the original intention was to have three separate services, as has prevailed. Diverting every other journey via North Station wouldn't have worked anyway, since, in order to have even headways on the common sections north and south of North Pier you would need to have...

That was my suspicion. Are the relevant tram diagrams 'RTE B' and 'RTE D' or simply 'B' and 'D'? What do they go up to? K? 1719572040 You would think they would ensure they had enough tram drivers before opening the extension. Not only does the new network require two extra trams, there is also...

Talbot Square is North of Tower. To be able to reach North Station by 0709 - is that of no use for commuters? 1719533950 Tramway Trips Not Operating 28/06/2024 27th Jun 2024 onwards Due to staff sickness the following journeys on our tram network will not operate: (T2) 20:15 - Starr Gate -...

Cliveblackpool said The present service from North of the Tower is no use for commuters. Bovverboy's response Passengers from the vicinity of Talbot Square can catch a tram to North Station from 0534 (Mons to Fris). Those from North of Talbot Square can reach North Station from 0709 by...

It's slightly worse than that I'm afraid. From North Pier to Starr Gate there are 30-minute gaps between 2055 and 2125, and between 2255 and 2325. In the opposite direction there's a 30-minute gap between 2230 and 2300. Not quite the same thing, of course, but between North Pier and Fleetwood...

All operators (of buses or trams) make it clear that timings given for intermediate points (i.e. those other than the principal timing points) are estimates only and that crews are under no instruction to wait time at those points. You would think, though, that the estimated times for...

Yes.

But why 'obviously'? I would have thought the obvious point for changeovers on the T1 would have been North Pier (Southbound), which is actually closer to the crew quarters on Market Street than even Talbot Square. If Starr Gate is the obvious point for crew changes on the T1 would it not also...

The ex-Fleetwood trams are scheduled to arrive at North Station at the same time that the Starr Gate ones are scheduled to depart, i.e. 15 and 45 minutes past the hour. But as we know it doesn't take the scheduled five minutes to get from Talbot Square, so most trips the ex-Fleetwood tram will...

The OP meant every new UK train has been delivered late. I've no idea whether or not that is true.

Indeed, I'd been led astray by the fact that Vision initially used them in Blackpool livery. That's something I was well aware of, but still managed to misinterpret some photos as being Blackpool, when they were in fact Vision.

Thanks for that. I've now checked out the Citaros and find that 550-3 appeared with new owners in early 2023. I see that 554 became a trainer, so may still be in use as such. As far as I know 403-10 went to Vision in 2023, so that's quite a fleet reduction in a short space of time.

According to 'Bus Lists On The Web' Blackpool has received 117 new buses since 2015 - 59 'deckers and 58 saloons. I know that all the 16 plate 'deckers have gone, but has anything else? Or is the current fleet strength 107?