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313, 315, 43, Deltics, 117, 153, 14*

I also find the 'one' 360s run quite fast too, when i was on a 350 (fast Euston - Leighton B. - MK Central its speed was unbeliveable that i thought i was on a 390! Alot of 444 hating on here lol.

I also saw the two on hire to c2c yesterday afternoon (start of rush hour), are the 1st class sections on them declassified seen as c2c is standard class only?

Im suprised they put the First logo on the front after the commotion with Keolis, looks nice though.

*Upping old thread* A > all.

Arriva? Dont they run on non-electrified and AC lines? What use can DC trains be on them routes? Excuse the n00b-ness.

Its a shame about these trains, the 444s are ok but no intercity feel. I hope -20 year trains wont go to scrap. My name says it all ;) Oh man :( if Adrantz made a completely new bodyshell over a slam door unit cant someone (somewhere) fit new traction units? (to think ive only been on...

On a Yahoo group, i was sceptical of the variations of the seating, why not fully transverse on the 8 car and a mix on the 7 car?

Ah yes, the A60/62 i was correct in thinking.

The trains in the last posters avatar and the 1992 stock of the Central Line.

Yes i used to work where i had to get c2c and back then it was absolutely dire, once leaving Lakeside workers stranded till midnight and then in 2005 they have more punctual trains (which im suprised about.) Ok and Silverlink Metro too is quite bad (poor infrastructure, shared with freight...

1st post, Well i just wanting to make a point about if Virgin/Stagecoach won, it may not necessarily be a monopoly in Scotland seen as they may not even retain the Cross Country Franchise. Arriva: Dunno about them, never been on their services, cant pass judgement. First: im anti-First...