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Not quite sure where to put this. It is mainly intended for staff but if anyone else finds it useful or interesting, then it is a good thing. I did post it originally on Railchat as anonymous but it happened a long time back and I’m retired now. The situation could still arise though, so...

I dislike commenting on issues of this nature but I’ll make an exception here. Here is a prediction – NR will flood the Court with masses of impressive looking paperwork which will be managed by expensive lawyers, and the lowest graded person possible will be left to carry the can. If I’m wrong...

I think you can rest your case OT, and Yorksrob. You have, to my way of reading it, demolioshed the arguments of the individuals who detest BR and those who ran it. G.

I wouldn’t waste your time OT. Frank debate on a forum like this is a good thing, but there seems to be an element who considers that their opinion is the only sensible or worthwhile one being expressed, and who respond with either attacks on other posters, or by trying to confuse the issue by...

It pains me to say it, but having spent the best part of my working life working for BR, I personally found (and still believe) that the railways were safer with BR and whilst not everything was cause for celebration, I personally found morale (and morals) to be higher. I had this discussion...

I have seen such behaviour too at Lime Street and a few other places and it is useless to complain. Perhaps there are elements of them which feel they have something to prove?. Though to be fair, I have to say that I have always found the BTP's CID to be thorough and professional. G

Greed. G

Hello neilmc, I’d agree up to a point – Ian Blair and Ken Livingstone wanted that for years in the Capital. For all intents and purposes the BTP are a ‘proper’ Police Force but their natural jurisdiction is limited (you can find it in the Memorandum of Understanding between the BTP and ACPO)...

etc etc. Agreed. a very reasoned argument. G

Hello Darlo, Personally, no, I have no issue with plod with guns per se - just with BTP with guns. To respond and to your post, and to answer another persons’ post regarding people not ‘swaggering round’ with guns’. I do not have a problem with Police with guns when necessary – though I don’t...

Ignorance eh?. Well, I guess it is the correct word but incorrectly aimed if it was directed at me. Having worked in BR, RT, and NR since 1975 I can honetly say that I've seen the BTP at work, and some of their contributions to law and order and with only a few exceptions, have never been...

Agreed - the thought of BTP swaggering round with guns scares me pooless. G

Hello 90019, I would say that it becomes an 'attack' when a stranger tries to drag me from my seat. However, I cannot see the situation where I would be involved in something like that. Look, no matter how it is represented what this ‘good guy’ did was to become involved in something which...

Who said that ????. I said if a stranger grabbed me out of the blue. There is a great deal of difference between that and putting a hand on my shoulder. But to be clear, if anybody put their hand on my shoulder NO - I WOULD NOT JUST PUNCH THEM. However, if somebody grabbed me aggressively in...

Hello Michael, In my original post I said that had the ‘do-gooder’ laid a hand on me, he would be minus his teeth. My meaning was that had a stranger grabbed hold of me first – not that I’d just have smacked him for getting involved. My reasoning being that the law allows me to use reasonable...

michael769 wrote Quote: "Originally Posted by Greeny View Post Personally, I’d call it an assault and I hope the CPS think so. As the CPS have no involvement in the Law of Scotland what they think of the matter (if anything) is entirely irrelevant." Scot's law and especially our legal...

Having just read this thread I have to say that I was appalled; if that ‘do-gooder’ (or whatever else people want to call him) had laid a hand on me I’d have shoved his bloody teeth down his throat. I wonder if our hero would have got involved if the fare dodger had been a 6ft 6” skinhead?. The...

Last time I came across it was 1977 at Lime Street - an 'occupied' coffin arrived on one of the Euston trains and was met by Undertakers. No doubt Old Timer can confirm this, but I seem to recall that as railway staff, we are entitled to a free train ride in the uk when we die and our coffin is...

Here is a picture of one that was a bit too short at Lime Street. G

I once had a couple of Merseyside Coppers stride onto a worksite at Mossley Hill Station threatening to nick the Machine Operators for the illegal use of blue lights. I asked them what they were on about and if they had asked the Keystones to look into it. One of them replied haughtily that he...