• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Search results

  1. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    Upthread discussion regarding freedom of movement (FoM) and the customs union (CU). FoM is one of ther four pillars of the Single Market, nothing to do with the CU. In any scenario people will be able to travel between NI and RoI using the Common Travel Area which covers all of the British...
  2. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    On keeping our fish, the question is do we really want them? Regardless of the CFP, the issue is that fish in UK waters are the wrong species for the UK market – unless you swap cod & chips for herring & chips. So we need access to EU ports to land our fish (about 40% of UK fish are landed in...
  3. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    NATO kept us safe from the commies. Not so much from each other.
  4. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    Goods from UK are in transit to a country (e.g. Korea) who have a trade deal with the EU UK leaves without a deal, therefore EU trade deal with country above no longer applies to UK exporters UK goods pay full WTO tariffs or stuck in limbo.
  5. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    No, not unless they were UK citizens. https://www.gov.uk/government/topical-events/eu-referendum/about#who-can-vote-in-the-referendum UK citizens living in the EU could not necessarily vote. Which considering they may lose free healthcare or at worst be deported due to Brexit is pretty unfair.
  6. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    I have lived in England since 1988 but grew up in County Fermanagh. The contempt shown for the hard won peace in NI makes my blood boil. When Rees-Mogg or Johnson swan over to NI, speak to a few Unionists* and then dismiss the problem as some EU plot I end up screaming at the telly. *I always...
  7. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    For a better understanding of the NI problems try reading this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/16/britain-has-led-a-charmed-political-life-but-there-is-a-price-to-pay-for-complacency Although it is in the Guardian, it is by Fintan O'Toole a writer for for the Irish Times...
  8. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    Nobody wants a hard border but if you have two separate customs and trading entities then you must have a border The GFA, an international agreement between the UK and RoI, implicitly rules out a hard border The GFA was possible because the UK and RoI were both in the CU and SM The UK is leaving...
  9. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    Have you heard of "Everything but Arms"? Everything but Arms (EBA) is an initiative of the European Union under which all imports to the EU from the Least Developed Countries are duty-free and quota-free, with the exception of armaments. EBA entered into force on 5 March 2001. There were...
  10. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    Pretty sure post was tongue in cheek.
  11. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    Oops, fixed. Also added Plaid Cymru. I included UKIP as they had the 5th highest vote count with no seats. Just to be clear I am a Labour Party member who would never vote UKIP.
  12. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    In seat terms SNP are larger but Lib Dems are still third on votes. 2017 Results Party -> Votes(%) -> Seats Con -> 13,636,684 (42.4%) -> 317 Lab -> 12,878,460 (40.0%) -> 262 SNP -> 977,569 (3%) -> 35 LibDem -> 2,371,910 (7.4%) -> 12 DUP -> 292,316 (0.9%) -> 10 SF -> 238,915 (0.7%) -> 7 Plaid...
  13. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    Only 2 people I know have told me they voted Leave, both also told me their reason was to give them Tories a good kicking.
  14. E

    EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

    As you say GFA has nothing specific to say about the border so looking back it was surprising that TM was so quick out of the blocks saying there would continue to be a friction-less border with no infrastructure. The European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 does makes it illegal to put in place...
  15. E

    Boris Johnson is a liability.

    And as I keep saying until the Custom Union and Single Market the border was not frictionless. There were custom checks for goods. I was brought up 15 miles from the border in the 60s (before the troubles began in earnest), 70s and 80s and remember them clearly. My neighbour was jailed for...
  16. E

    Boris Johnson is a liability.

    Soldiers searching cars on the border were not looking for contraband other than guns/explosive. For the purpose of a deal with the EU, HMG has agreed* that there will be no new physical infrastructure on the border - a camera checking lorry number plates would be new infrastructure (despite...
  17. E

    Boris Johnson is a liability.

    That makes no sense.
  18. E

    Boris Johnson is a liability.

    But the UK doesn't want to keep commonality with the EU, it wants to make it's own trade deals etc. Barnier produced a graphic with the different possible deals, I can't find the original but this article explains it...
  19. E

    Boris Johnson is a liability.

    I have not said that to you, however you have not answered my point. So as to avoid confusion, a straight forward question, where will the customs post be for goods travelling between the UK and the EU?
  20. E

    Boris Johnson is a liability.

    The problem on the NI border is the movement of goods, Eire does not have to check goods travelling in or out to the rest of the EU because they are in the Custom Union and the Single Market. After we leave the EU we will not be and therefore all goods travelling between the UK and EU will have...

Top