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"Way of his choice" What does that mean?

It's this... peoples right to photograph and film freely v peoples right not to be harassed (not the legal definition it's to high a bar) in play here. I worry that these auditors will get photography/filming banned unless permission is first obtained. There used to be public order offences...

The thing is with all this Auditing it is done to make money and is not auditing at all. It causes a lot of trouble and time wasted for police ect. I like people to have rights, we all want them but this auditing does not seem to benefit society and cause untold stress and discomfort for many...

Yes I think that's it. People have to explain whey they are there. If not then it can be construed as loitering. The auditor did explain what he was doing in the video and train spotters would be able to explain. So they would be OK.

It is what people will accept as a purpose. Killing time can be done anywhere even railway stations but is it a purpose? I think it is a purpose but when taking the circumstance of each event into consideration it may well fall foul of the section 13 rule of loitering. If a person is on a...

I don't agree, there is no reasonable belief get out caveat in the bye law. Where have you got that from?. They must be loitering. No reasonable belief. As far as I can see if they are arrested of force is used against them they will have a claim if it is not established that the person was...

The common law one is the one I think that applies and is enforcable, the other two require other factors to be in play before enforcement can take place. Section 13 requires that loitering is taking place. Must be 'without purpose' The auditor did have a purpose. The 1840 section 16 is for...

I think you have that one wrong. The word loitering is just means "not having a purpose" it does not mean that the loitering must be legitimate because how does one define legitamate, it it is not legit then an offence must be being committed? Where does the burden of proof lie with the...

I don't think that applies because loitering is "Without purpose"

Right. So there is no byelaw or trespass law, it's just if you are say talking photos of trains and you are then asked to leave the law is then in force from that point and you must leave. Thanks. Got it now.

Which laws are those ? To my knowledge there is no powere to remove anyone from a railway station unless they are in breach of a law of some sort? Bye law? Common law? and tresspass law?

If in a hole.

Does anyone know why the RMT are bringing their members out on the 1st October when there are no trains runing?

Thanks.

Does anyone know what class 91 91127 is diagramed on today? Thanks.

Thanks. I did not know about that TrackIT site!

Thanks. It will be that working but it passed me going north at 1637 so had already gone through Doncaster, it must have reveresed a Temple Hirst Jct as it then came passed me at 1705 going south. It has arrived at Doncaster 1710, then reversed and headed to Hull via Goole for some reason. I...

It's going in the wrong direction to be that train. It's going south in that photo. BUT I have a photo of the same train 1H05 going north at 16:37. 28 mins earlier! it must have reversed at Selby ? RTT looks wrong!

Can anyone tell me what this working was please. I was at Joan Croft Junction today 09 July 2022, it came past at 1705 southbound Hull Trains set no. 802305. There is nothing showing on Real Time trains?

The last I knew. 35hr week. The roster at Newcastle cycles round throughout the year. So everyone works early and lates. 12hr minimum gap between shifts. Sunday is part of the week. Newcastles one run to london and back, they used to do a Glasgow and back on a weekends. Don't worry about...