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I do think that the 323s need the seat re done. The padding seems to have worse a lot... And the 142s need to be fixed up, it was yesterday that all (3) doors in the back coach had broken at Piccadilly so they had to be pushed open manually... Other than that, I like Northern!

The 'shops' aren't all that good...its just food with some magazines...

WOW! looks great! I have tried making my own route...but gave up coz I thought it was too hard!

They don't run very fast...but a lot of the time they run on el tracks...so ti cud hav been bad!

I like these trains...but won't they run at lower speeds that the other trains on that route? Won't that cause problems with signaling etc...

The Stoke-Piccadilly service has always been very good with Northern... The class 323s have been very good trains, very fast, clean, quiet etc

How do you drive a none London Underground surface rail train in BVE4 or Open BVE... If I want to drive an class 156 for example...I press 2 to start the engin, nothing happens, I turn the power up and the brakes off...nothing happens! :cry: Am I doing somthing wrong? What should I do...