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Exactly, it is a really ridiculous thing.

Sorry JonathanH but it is a new trap. One of the defensive steps a passenger could take to defend against the railways own failings was to take an earlier train on the local journey to guard against the often ridiculously high risk of the railway stuffing it up. To have to now work out how to...

And for me. 1753682344 What do you mean Haywain? If I buy a ticket with a particular seller I need their app for the ticket don’t I? Here is my list of clutter and why: Trainline: because they decided to deliver functionality that sometimes wins out when trying to out together a relatively...

Thanks Watershed, that is really helpful. Is it possible to buy a paper ticket at the contactless fare somehow or do you chose to accept the cost premium of a paper ticket to get rid of the risk? Do you buy a through ticket for the whole journey or is it still two tickets with the first is an...

At okay, good to know, thanks. Yes agreed it is rare that the tube has delays bad enough to cause a problem. Thameslink on other hand is like Russian roulette but is my logical route from Herne Hill. The back up is Herne Hill to london Victoria the Victoria Lime to Euston/KX but you can easily...

Thanks! This continues to be mind blowing! So what does one do when you face the inevitable refusal at the gateline at Euston or KX. Are you meant to go to the ticket office first? How do they work out how you were delayed, check your contactless card and then the recent past running of the...

Is the relevant clause: 5.2 If delays occur while travelling, you will be allowed to take the next available train(s) to complete your journey? If so, that seems super vague to me. I read that as meaning if you have commenced your journey named on your advance ticket rather than allowing you to...

Yes I am thinking of where you buy the tickets on this site or trainline in a single transaction. Who protects you, the railway T&Cs or the seller? Are you also protected if you: -Buy two separate advance tickets. Let’s say Milton Keynes to Crewe and Crewe to Wigan, respecting the min time to...

I am sure this must have been raised before but apologies, I can’t find the thread. If you buy a split ticket and it pops out as two advance fares that match with 2 connecting services, are you bound to buy a new fare on the second service if the first one is delayed meaning you have to catch...

I would love to know how much revenue the railway makes from that little Ryanair/rip off Britain trick. It is probably an embarrassingly small figure compared with the very real and completely unfair pain it causes in individual circumstances. A particularly heinous side effect of...

I very much appreciate the replies. However, I remain firmly of the view that it is ridiculous the system has any advance fares in it that are higher than the equivalent off peak fare. Why is V2G loaded against any off peak services in the first place? I am trying to think of a single example...

It’s not the Anytime i have a problem, it’s the Advance fare! Why is that being shown when it is obviously a ludicrous option to chose? Why is it even loaded into the system when the service is clearly off peak and so that would never be the best option to chose, the much cheaper off peak single...

I am attaching screenshots of Avanti’s website. On the super off peak, I think it is bad wording. It suggests they have forgotten to use the word ‘between’. The advance fare showing on the Avanti site is even more bizzare. More expensive than on Trainline. I don’t buy the company policy...

Hi, I am looking to book a train from Southport to London next Saturday morning. I am looking at the 9.24 from Southport via Wigan into London at 12.12. The off peak fare is £80.90 single, the advance single is £136.79. Why is the advance single showing as an option. Am I missing something...

Ge The reality is that advance fares, like the rest of the ticketing system, is a mess. Advance fares started as a way to fill seats. It was inevitable on a fragmented railway that they have ended up being whatever a particular theory of a particular TOC wants them to be. I think the London...

Which includes not over filling trains with advance fares where the seats will sell at off peak walk up fares.

I agree on Stockport to Manchester. That is just silly. I don’t agree on Luton Airport solely because the normal price feels like overcharging and for instance hard pressed families trying to make a holiday affordable might really benefit from advances. I definitely don’t agree with London to...

I am a bit torn on this. I do think there should be some access to advance fares across multiple operators on regional journeys. It is definitely a gap. The big problem to me is many of those trains are already full. I have basically stopped using TPE due a combination of poor service and 185’s...

I came to the conclusion the subsidy should probably be withdrawn on the Scottish sleeper a good while ago because the fares are in no way inclusive any more at any time. We seem to be heading in the same direction for the Riviera. Hopefully it stops short of that. Interestingly a trawl of...

Sleeper berths are not effectively hotel rooms. They are a subsidised train service with a very short bed. The bed is nowhere near as comfortable as a hotel room. The Riviera doesn’t have en suite bathrooms. It is about a century since anybody last stayed in a hotel room without an en suite...