Class 175s to GWR

Apedlar12 · Wednesday at 23:31

REVUpminster said:
Just checked and 002 on its way back to Laira as 5P28. The 158 finishing of 2P28 but needing to stay at Exeter. Hopefully 002 has clocked up a lot of mileage.

It did go into the depot in Exeter this morning though, so hopefully that wasn't due to a fault.

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BillStampy · Wednesday at 23:41

Apedlar12 said:
It did go into the depot in Exeter this morning though, so hopefully that wasn't due to a fault.

Probably crew training, they've done that a few times now.

If it was a fault I suspect that when it returned to Plymouth it would've ran into Laira.

REVUpminster · Thursday at 08:59

003 back on the important 2C05 diagram. 002 and 114 on different mileage accumulation trips.

150? coming back from Wolverton Saturday.

spark001uk · Thursday at 11:51

Looks like 003 has sat down on 2E11, it left PNZ on time but can't see how far it got as RTT has cleared it

Apedlar12 · Thursday at 12:12

spark001uk said:
Looks like 003 has sat down on 2E11, it left PNZ on time but can't see how far it got as RTT has cleared it

Looks to be doing 5C32 up to Exeter now:

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:10698/2026-08-27/detailed

jamieh27 · Thursday at 16:08

So 114 and 107 both failed when exiting the depot at Exeter which reset the 1000 miles, then failed again at Plymouth so got back to Exeter.

BillStampy · Thursday at 17:34

002 seems fine currently. Normally was a reliable unit before the emergency plan anyway

If it becomes serviceable, hopefully it should restore another diagram sooner rather than later. Particularly 2C26's one which has had awful reliability for turning up for a long while now.

RPI · Thursday at 17:45

BillStampy said:
Probably crew training, they've done that a few times now.

If it was a fault I suspect that when it returned to Plymouth it would've ran into Laira.

Maybe, but 004 has been inside Exeter Depot for weeks now, which I thought was for training.

Apedlar12 · Thursday at 18:44

jamieh27 said:
So 114 and 107 both failed when exiting the depot at Exeter which reset the 1000 miles, then failed again at Plymouth so got back to Exeter.

107? That one hasn't come down from Wolverton yet, and 114 hasn't been to Exeter today as far as I am aware...

jamieh27 · Thursday at 18:49

Apedlar12 said:
107? That one hasn't come down from Wolverton yet, and 114 hasn't been to Exeter today as far as I am aware...

Or maybe the its 007 this was what the train manager told me.

Express380 · Thursday at 19:47

Another 5Z77 this evening went to Newton Abbot and return from Laira, guessing another 175?

Peeled Apples · Thursday at 20:04

002 has just passed through Dawlish heading towards Exeter, i've seen it a few times today.

BillStampy · Thursday at 21:19

Express380 said:
Another 5Z77 this evening went to Newton Abbot and return from Laira, guessing another 175?

Pathed as a 175 so presumably so

We need more units out on milage accumulation and getting them working soon as the service is currently very very fragile.

Express380 · Thursday at 21:23

BillStampy said:
Pathed as a 175 so presumably so

We need more units out on milage accumulation and getting them working soon as the service is currently very very fragile.

Looks as if 003 just threw the towel in - on the subject of fragile.

Apedlar12 · Thursday at 21:24

BillStampy said:
Pathed as a 175 so presumably so

We need more units out on milage accumulation and getting them working soon as the service is currently very very fragile.

I read elsewhere today that apparently GWR might be now taking on the TfW 158s. If true I don't know what that would mean for the 175s...

BillStampy · Thursday at 21:39

Apedlar12 said:
I read elsewhere today that apparently GWR might be now taking on the TfW 158s. If true I don't know what that would mean for the 175s...

It'll be quite a competition for those 158s as I think most operators that have them would want some more!

REVUpminster · Thursday at 21:57

002 seems to have trundled round all day. I see a 150 has replaced 003 at Plymouth for the final journey. 150238 that was working Falmouth this morning

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Still nothing ready to run from Wolverton. Will there ever be? Who's paying? GWR don't. On another point GWR been given money by the DfT for Paignton station so the shed there could remain closed for months yet a plastic bin bag in the forecourt, ticket machine and advertising panels were untouched by the fire.

Apedlar12 · Thursday at 22:10

REVUpminster said:
002 seems to have trundled round all day. I see a 150 has replaced 003 at Plymouth for the final journey. 150238 that was working Falmouth this morning

I suppose it's possible that was to get the 150 back up to Exeter for tomorrow, but it seems as if it was supposed to go up to Exeter anyway on an ECS movement.

XFeed · Thursday at 22:15

RPI said:
Here's 002......

Love the picture, which depot is 002 pictured at ?
Do you have any further pictures of the No2 end bogie of 79 car and below the soulbar at the bottom of the No2 end bodyside door ?

RPI · Thursday at 22:23

XFeed said:
Love the picture, which depot is 002 pictured at ?
Do you have any further pictures of the No2 end bogie of 79 car and below the soulbar at the bottom of the No2 end bodyside door ?

This was taken through the fence, from the street at Exeter Depot.

XFeed · Thursday at 22:27

Thank

RPI said:
This was taken through the fence, from the street at Exeter Depot.

Thanks for the quick reply.
Also are the 400v cabinets,cables and plugs in their receptacles new ?

RPI · Thursday at 22:56

XFeed said:
Thank

Thanks for the quick reply.
Also are the 400v cabinets,cables and plugs in their receptacles new ?

I'll be honest, I wasn't paying much attention, I grabbed a quick pic whilst walking from the car into work.

XFeed · Thursday at 23:17

RPI said:
I'll be honest, I wasn't paying much attention, I grabbed a quick pic whilst walking from the car into work.

Ok thanks, I just thought that the installation looked new and possibly 175 shore supply connenection.

REVUpminster · 2026-08-28T07:46:38+0100

003 back on it's usual passenger duties. 002 out again on mileage accumulation and 112 also out on mileage run.

Oddly last week one of the most successful runs was a five car set 3+2. Maybe the two units counter each others faults.

TastyMaltesers · 2026-08-28T08:02:28+0100

Apedlar12 said:
I read elsewhere today that apparently GWR might be now taking on the TfW 158s. If true I don't know what that would mean for the 175s...

This is the first I've heard of that, aside from rampant speculation about the half a dozen TOCs that would potentially want a 158 when TfW are done with them (which they might not be any time soon, given their own stock shortages)

Snow1964 · 2026-08-28T08:08:24+0100

Apedlar12 said:
I read elsewhere today that apparently GWR might be now taking on the TfW 158s. If true I don't know what that would mean for the 175s...

There are multiple rumours, but I am guessing some serious contingency planning must be on the table by now. The first 175s arrived over 18 months ago, and they just don't seem to be fixable to the point of doing 1000 fault free miles.

There have been talk of the TfW 158s, even some of the TfW 150s (others are virtually out of miles before expensive overhaul).

But there were supposed to be enhancements, Cornwall metro, some lengthening of Bristol area trains, Okehampton, Portishead, Restoring 4 or 5car on Cardiff-Portsmouth etc. If 175s don't work need extra other stock for this.

The frustration is that there are spare EMUs, but because of the lack of extending electrification, they are going for scrap, whilst the 34-40 diesel units struggle on, but have no replacements on order.

In blunt terms, currently policy is 175s or nothing, and with 175s continuing not to work, nothing is accidently becoming the outcome, but continuing nothing with a fleet approaching 40 years old is not practical, hence the ideas of scrabbling around for whatever can be got.

thelongestroad · 2026-08-28T08:17:12+0100

Snow1964 said:
The frustration is that there are spare EMUs, but because of the lack of extending electrification, they are going for scrap, whilst the 34-40 diesel units struggle on, but have no replacements on order.

What EMUs are currently spare? Anything similar to the Electrostar family? Could they remove the remaining Cardiff 800 diagrams and make them EMUs?

TastyMaltesers · 2026-08-28T08:22:46+0100

thelongestroad said:
What EMUs are currently spare? Anything similar to the Electrostar family? Could they remove the remaining Cardiff 800 diagrams and make them EMUs?

Some problems with that;
* Electrostars don't exactly have the same 1st class or catering offering as an IET.
* Electrostars have a lower top speed, and the current IET Cardiff diagrams probably feature the units also working on other routes - so therefore the timetables would need to be completely rewritten.
* If the main route is blocked for whatever reason, all diversionary routes are unelectrified.

Towers · 2026-08-28T08:22:56+0100

I’ll add to the wild speculation bombfire and ask how long before the 769s are looked at again?!

spark001uk · 2026-08-28T08:23:48+0100

From experience, sitting on an ironing board (387) from London to Cardiff isn't the most comfortable ride.
Then again, at least you're not sat with a metal bar digging into your backside I suppose.

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