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I would imagine it's because of cost and that they'd be required to change the advertising (further cost) when there are changes etc. Plus for things like route maps etc that restricts the bus to a certain route.

But certainly some bus companies do well at branding - just don't think it's (ever?) been Arriva's forte?
I wouldn't go as far as route branding, just some advertising for the network, especially for the x38 for getting to Derby Royal hospital and Burton. It could even be placed so that it didn't interfere with the advertising spaces. The electronic adverts that the Solo SRs had when new were very good, but it was something that didn't seem to last.
 
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Might have been mentioned, but how many E200 MMCs are Tamworth getting?

I've just been on one, nice enough for what they are, but the next stop announcements are far too quiet, same as on the Citaros, my hearing is fine and I was struggling to hear it, which begs the question, what is the point of it?
 

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I've just been on one, nice enough for what they are, but the next stop announcements are far too quiet, same as on the Citaros, my hearing is fine and I was struggling to hear it, which begs the question, what is the point of it?
Thats strange since the Shrewsbury Evoras have quite loud announcements that mispronounce everything!
 

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Thats strange since the Shrewsbury Evoras have quite loud announcements that mispronounce everything!

I can't comment on the pronunciation as I can't hear 90% of the announcements, they could be saying anything!
 

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Might have been mentioned, but how many E200 MMCs are Tamworth getting?

I've just been on one, nice enough for what they are, but the next stop announcements are far too quiet, same as on the Citaros, my hearing is fine and I was struggling to hear it, which begs the question, what is the point of it?
Supposed to be 8 e200 mmc’s in total and so far they have 4
And yes especially if the windows are open you just can’t hear the announcements at all they are very quiet.
 

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I can't comment on the pronunciation as I can't hear 90% of the announcements, they could be saying anything!
Here in Derby its the same, if you're lucky enough to catch a pulsar or gemini with working NSA on board, it's usually far too quiet and even the quietest ambience can drown out the audio. (I can't really comment on the streetlites as I've never ridden one)
 

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Here in Derby its the same, if you're lucky enough to catch a pulsar or gemini with working NSA on board, it's usually far too quiet and even the quietest ambience can drown out the audio. (I can't really comment on the streetlites as I've never ridden one)

I can only assume whoever made the decision on volume level has never actually travelled on a bus.
 

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Here in Derby its the same, if you're lucky enough to catch a pulsar or gemini with working NSA on board, it's usually far too quiet and even the quietest ambience can drown out the audio. (I can't really comment on the streetlites as I've never ridden one)
The Streetlites vary considerably. Some are clearly audible but others aren't. Some also have have a habit of saying Next Stop, but nothing else... :rolleyes:
 

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There was a Streetlite working service 2, Derby - Swadlincote on Saturday. Perhaps a last minute replacement but not very appealing for such a service!
 

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There was a Streetlite working service 2, Derby - Swadlincote on Saturday. Perhaps a last minute replacement but not very appealing for such a service!
It only did 2 trips, but I’ve known drivers purposefully swap Scanias & VDLs for a StreetLite purely for the better headlights.

But what appeal are you talking about? I mean a bus actually turning up is the only appeal a service needs, unless you’re an enthusiast & majority of the general public are not, meaning they don’t care what colour, or make the bus is.
 

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Have most of the VDLs and Gemini's at Derby been fitted with next stop announcements/displays? Think the Gemini's are staying until they break, even if they move to other garages, but assume some of the VDLs will be withdrawn with new buses due in the next couple of months.
 

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Have most of the VDLs and Gemini's at Derby been fitted with next stop announcements/displays? Think the Gemini's are staying until they break, even if they move to other garages, but assume some of the VDLs will be withdrawn with new buses due in the next couple of months.

At the glacial pace Arriva are fitting the nest stop announcement kit, most of the geminis will have died before being fitted!
 

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Have most of the VDLs and Gemini's at Derby been fitted with next stop announcements/displays? Think the Gemini's are staying until they break, even if they move to other garages, but assume some of the VDLs will be withdrawn with new buses due in the next couple of months.
Bus times suggests 4219 is on loan to Luton.
 

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Not a loan, all the B9s are headed for Luton.
No doubt replace their 57/08 plated East Lancs B9s. TBH I thought the Geminis in Derby were just getting new rear adverts
 

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Have most of the VDLs and Gemini's at Derby been fitted with next stop announcements/displays? Think the Gemini's are staying until they break, even if they move to other garages, but assume some of the VDLs will be withdrawn with new buses due in the next couple of months.
Don't they have the information screens fitted from the star trak days?
 

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Don't they have the information screens fitted from the star trak days?
I don't think any of the Star Trak systems are compatible with new tech as Leicester had to take all theirs out. Most of the tech is now over 20 years old, it last worked in 2011.
 

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Saw 3108 YX17 NMJ in Leicester City Centre today, looked to me like it was in the darker shade of blue. Apologies if it has been mentioned already
 

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Can anyone hazard a guess at why this is not 2161 meaning the 26 plates would all be togeather.
No idea I thought it was strange. 4x 26 plates then 3x 76,s and then another 26.

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And one already has a nice dent under the drivers window!
Yes I seen it. Having new busses is great but drivers and the passengers need to look after them. I’m not saying all the drivers are bad just a select few drive like busses are go karts. I’m not knocking the drivers and I know it’s a hard job. Most of the drivers are new and I’ve noticed the training process is slack to say the least especially when I trained 4 weeks turned into one week with basically no mentoring we had to get signed off as quick as possible as they were “short of drivers”. This was a few years back now but I heard it’s still exactly the same.
It will be interesting to see how long these new ones last as they are only the 4.5 litre engines instead of the 6.7 litre. This might explain why they’ve only been on local services.
 
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Grahamk748

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Can anyone hazard a guess at why this is not 2161 meaning the 26 plates would all be togeather.
They are numbered in chassis number/body number order, the 76 were more than likely due to be 26 reg in the same sequence as the others but for some reason didn’t get taxed in time so became 76s. Most operators number their vehicles in body number orders hence why sometimes the regs are in no logical order.
 

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No idea I thought it was strange. 4x 26 plates then 3x 76,s and then another 26.

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Yes I seen it. Having new busses is great but drivers and the passengers need to look after them. I’m not saying all the drivers are bad just a select few drive like busses are go karts. I’m not knocking the drivers and I know it’s a hard job. Most of the drivers are new and I’ve noticed the training process is slack to say the least especially when I trained 4 weeks turned into one week with basically no mentoring we had to get signed off as quick as possible as they were “short of drivers”. This was a few years back now but I heard it’s still exactly the same.
It will be interesting to see how long these new ones last as they are only the 4.5 litre engines instead of the 6.7 litre. This might explain why they’ve only been on local services.

I noticed during the winter that they were route training drivers on the 0650 6 to Nuneaton, the route was in total darkness until Atherstone, it seemed a bit of an odd decision to me, the first part of the route out of Tamworth via Polesworth and and the villages along the A5 is quite a complicated route, especially in the dark...

The 4.5L engine would explain why I thought they seemed a bit sluggish.
 

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It will be interesting to see how long these new ones last as they are only the 4.5 litre engines instead of the 6.7 litre. This might explain why they’ve only been on local services.
Looks like we will still unfortunately be stuck with 15+ year old buses on the 6 then
 

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