-
Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
Report of collision Bedford (Elstow) - 19/06/26
- Thread starter E16 Cyclist
- Start date
- Status
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
That's just a selection from a preset list, no doubt done in a hurry.
Intercity_225
Member
MP for the area is just saying on BBC News that this area should be easily accessed by emergency services.
S101
Member
Not necessarily. Could be anything. Signal passed at danger, anything at all.
Kilopylae
Member
I assume, in most circumstances, the most severe option, too. Read it less as disruption will be sorted by tomorrow and more, disruption will not be clearing up any time soon.
If you're just joining the thread it would appreciated if you would skim what has already been posted to avoid unnecessary duplication of posts.
It would also be appreciated if Forum Members would ensure that they treat each other with respective and avoid resorting to sarcasm or other sorts of rudeness please. A little forbearance with your fellow members goes a long way.
I'm also currently flying solo so it helps me with this extremely busy thread if we can try and keep this civil and avoid duplication of content where possible!
It would also be appreciated if Forum Members would ensure that they treat each other with respective and avoid resorting to sarcasm or other sorts of rudeness please. A little forbearance with your fellow members goes a long way.
I'm also currently flying solo so it helps me with this extremely busy thread if we can try and keep this civil and avoid duplication of content where possible!
Dave W
Member
Philip Haigh on an interview on Sky. Cathy Newman (the presenter) has had the decency to ask "just how safe are UK railways" - which is an easy response for the industry. I hope everything works out here. I fear for the handling of stranded passengers on powerless trains - it could be a long evening.
Intercity_225
Member
From Heidi Alexander:
150249
Established Member
That 360 looks like hell. The impact from that must have been massive to do that much damage to the ends of the coaches.
Intercity_225
Member
What's happening with the other trains in the area? Are they being evacuated at the moment?
Trainguy34
Established Member
Likely a VSTP Passenger service, I just saw a 1Z04 appear at Leicester and I believe your 1Z01 is at Long Eaton, so doubtful that it is not a passenger service.
Where? Heading which direction?
Could be a stranded train returning to where it came from.
Could be a train to collect the passengers evacuated from the incident trains.
Could be taking emergency personnel to the train
Many scenarios
Steve Harris
Member
Not quite...
Google maps shoes that Ampthill Road is really busy between Bedford Bypass (A421) and Kempston Hardwick.
The crash is somewhere between the A421 and Elstow Sidings. So about a mile or so from Kempston Fire Station and about 2 miles from Bedford Hospital.
As a side note, it's a shame the journalist on the BBC said it was a head on crash... speculation at it's worst.
Thoughts and prayers with all involved.
With the RAIB investigating, examining and collecting evidence at the location and at signalling centres etc, I'm thinking it may not be possible to run even a restricted service past the scene for some time, perhaps even a matter of days.
I'm not experienced in rail investigations so would be pleased to hear from suitably qualified persons to comment.
With thoughts and best wishes to all those involved or affected in any way.
I'm not experienced in rail investigations so would be pleased to hear from suitably qualified persons to comment.
With thoughts and best wishes to all those involved or affected in any way.
They will start being turned around and head back in direction they came from.
bramling
Veteran Member
The carriage ends will be deliberately designed to crumple in a controlled way, and if the first train was stopped with brakes full on then there will have been a lot of energy to dissipate. It’s not clear from the pictures if the damage on the 360 has gone beyond the crumple zones.
Thanks
Thumper1127
Member
- Joined
- 19 Jan 2019
- Messages
- 176
Two more air ambulances just arrived on scene (looking at a plane app)
43096
On Moderation
- Joined
- 23 Nov 2015
- Messages
- 18,728
That is what the train is designed to do in a collision of greater force. Notably the doors and windows are all intact so the passenger "survival space" has not been compromised. Once we get more information on speed, casualties etc we may well be thanking the Siemens engineers who designed the 360 that it performed as it did.
Trainguy34
Established Member
Currently near Long Eaton, heading towards Derby.
Stranded trains would presumably be running ECS as 5Zxx.
Since it's running in the opposite direction quite far up the MML I'd be shocked if it is an evac or emergency personnel train.
== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==
Looks roughly to be next to the B&M Distribution Centre judging by where the Air Ambulances took off from.
Thumper1127
Member
- Joined
- 19 Jan 2019
- Messages
- 176
London air ambulance just took off from site
As per post 106 who answered at same time, these will be special short notice planned services being operated by EMR ie Sheffield to Leicester etc
Thumper1127
Member
- Joined
- 19 Jan 2019
- Messages
- 176
Sky News helicopter just about to arrive.
Point of order. You get a junction indicator if coming up from the up slow , usually from P1 , but if on the up/down which is usually from P2 or P3 you just get a main aspect.
Last edited:
Looks to be heading for Addenbrooke's, Cambridge.
It’s the RAIB’s railway now. With NR, they will determine how much adjacent railway they need on stop for everyone to work safely.
When RAIB release the railway back to NR, the next job will be to recover the two trains, and even then that could be to a place where RAIB wants the vehicles. Finally, any infrastructure damage will need to be addressed.
Any timescales are speculative - So I won’t.
bengley
Established Member
- Joined
- 18 May 2008
- Messages
- 1,987
The signal after Bedford South Junction on the up fast is automatic and is not fitted with TPWS, so the train would only have stopped in this situation (if the signal was at danger) if the driver applied the brakes himself.
- Status