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TV alert: Great British Railway Journeys

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Would be good if he did something like South, West or Mid-Wales, I'm sure he'd love the Heart of Wales Line, or even along the South Coast to places such as Weymouth, Poole, Bournemouth, Southampton and Portsmouth.

EDIT: Actually, have just found out he's doing Poole and Wareham this week.
 
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I'd like to see him in the West Midlands a bit more although since he did pass through in an earlier series I can understand if he doesn't.

I like the quality of the picture though
 

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I'd like to see him in the West Midlands a bit more although since he did pass through in an earlier series I can understand if he doesn't.

I like the quality of the picture though

I was thinking that actually, he only made a quick stop at Walsall and Bournville because he went from Buxton to London, so he couldn't really stay for long as such because he had travelled through Matlock, Cromford and Burton-on-Trent and still had Coventry, Watford and St Pancras to see. If he could focus specifically in the West Midlands, he could visit more than one town/area, which would be good.
 

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of course you will still need a tv licence, to view on a computer-surley!

You only presumed he watched it on a computer, most modern tvs have I player built in now.
Computers & VDUs are a grey area, The address needs a TV license,if you have the means of receiving broadcasts transmitted by electromagnetic waves,cable or hard wired telephone cable etc. Lots of threads on Digitalspy discuss this.

If you own ,as many do,a computer or laptop with a TV tuner built in, your address requires a tv license.


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I would rather have cringe-worthy jokes, rather than see Julia Bradbury trying to pretend that she walks muddy old railway paths in boots that never get dirty or she never gets out of breath; and heaven knows what the reason was for her finishing some walks in different clothes to when she started.

But then, she has recently had a baby......

Ooh, the little minx. Do you think they kept the camera running during that..? ;)
 

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I love all those East Anglian and Suffolk single track lines! Must make a visit!
 

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I would rather have cringe-worthy jokes, rather than see Julia Bradbury trying to pretend that she walks muddy old railway paths in boots that never get dirty or she never gets out of breath; and heaven knows what the reason was for her finishing some walks in different clothes to when she started.

But then, she has recently had a baby......
She does all her walks in what looks like the summer iirc, so they wouldn't likely be much mud. And I doubt they'd want to start filming her while she's fighting for breath (how much would you be out of breath anyway on a flat railway ramble)? As for the clothes, what do you mean "different"? Wise ramblers wear layers and than can put on and take off as they get hotter or colder.

Add to that a lot of these places are in the middle of no where so how would they get there if they didn't walk?
 

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having been tempted by another thread, oi 'ad a look on this new fangled Oiplayer thingamijig. Those Southend Pier trains look surprisingly sophisticated; I was expecting something like a theme park ride.
"one of the world's first electric railways" apparently; though it seems to have been de-electrified now.
 

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I've just watched this for the first time tonight, primarily because of you all suggesting that Mr Portillo visited my home town... and, if I'm honest, I was far from impressed, to the point that this will probably be my only viewing of the series. I note for instance that you all mention continuity errors; I see that the focus seems to shift constantly between 321s and 360s around Witham, and that there is no apparent consistency in his route; the route map suggests you head virtually due south to get from Sudbury to Witham, for instance, when in practice even Portillo knows that you have to travel via Marks Tey. And when he reached the not-so-sunny Southend, I couldn't help but wonder how old the film is; I noticed that Southend's recent Unviersity accommodation, or "The Tetris Block" as locals know it, was seemingly missing. He also failed to mention that Southend has two separate lines, which is especially awkward given that the Shenfield to Southend route came towards the end of the Victorian era, when the LTS route had been ferrying tourists for 30 years.

Anyhow, simplistic criticism over, and now on to the serious stuff. It is all very well Portillo fronting a series about "Great Railway Journeys" - but how much of the series actually features on the railways and not on the random and often remote places he visits? I accept that people will generally be more interested in the towns and their histories but I cannot help but feel that he is trying too hard and as such is being very specific in each instance; Chelmsford is more than just a mill, for instance. Put simply, I know that I could do better with half of the funds he has - actually, change that to "an ALR and a lot of SD cards and batteries".

OK, unnecessary rant over. For the record, Southend Pier was de-electrified in the mid-1980s, I believe. And if you think they are sophisticated, you should try riding one - you quite literally sit on the bodywork! It's a much nicer walk than it is a train ride, and you wont hear me say that very often.

P.S.: As for continuity errors, one of you mentioned the impracticality of filimng the exact same train, which is fair enough. You'd think however that they could at least use the same class, and record a 360 when he is travelling on a 360?
 
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Are those wrse than a Pacer then? :P

From what I read after, I think you are right about when it was de-electrified and I think costs played a large part in it

The one thing I noticed was how he got on a 360 (decided I prefer the other Dessies looks wise!) in the pouring rain (and possibly showed him sat on it) and then it cut to something with a different interior and it looked dry!!!

As for the P.S. or at least not a OHLE electric when you can see he is on a non-electrified line!
 

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Gosh, it has been 4½ years since I last went on the Pier Train you know! :lol: In years gone by the modern sets used to be red; they were very easy to distinguish from the Esplanade to the east against the grey or blue backdrop [i.e. the sky]. The modern blue however isn't as easy, but you can still make them out from several miles away. Seeing the Pier Train in action is one of the things that makes the 9 bus route back home that much more attractive than most of the others in the town! (That, and the fact that Arriva have recently introduced some Optare Versas to the route.) As for being worse than a Pacer? I don't dislike Pacers these days :lol: I would suggest that the Pier Train is very much an experience worth having - but a very slow one. They really aren't that comfortable at all, unless Southend Borough Council have added leather upholstery of late :lol:

I seem to recall that the line was de-electrified when the older green stock was withdrawn. What was a two-track route became a single line with a passing point, and the third rail was also removed at the same time. Very much a cost-saving measure - as opposed to what one Dr Beeching probably would have done.

At one time the route ran every five minutes; now, out of season there are 30-minute headways between departures.

N.B.: I will ask the folks back home to travel on the Pier Train to get some pictures of its interior. Whether they will or not is another matter :roll:
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Predictably, it looks like they won't even if I pay <(

Lazy twerps <( They could take my niece up there for a day out...!

My mother will try the Library though, so that's a start.
 
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I think the program is designed to be a bit like "Coast on Rails" with the emphasis on people and places rather than the type of train involved reaching them.

Perhaps Neil Oliver will "pop up" if Portillo gets to Stirling where he lives:p

That would result in a grand "I've got to run my fingers through my hair moment"
 

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I would rather have cringe-worthy jokes, rather than see Julia Bradbury trying to pretend that she walks muddy old railway paths in boots that never get dirty or she never gets out of breath; and heaven knows what the reason was for her finishing some walks in different clothes to when she started.

But then, she has recently had a baby......

Julia Bradbury single-handedly ruined "Countryfile" with her lack of personality and her overbearing self-effacement and regular viewers breathed a sigh of relief when pregnancy came to the rescue.
 

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I think the program is designed to be a bit like "Coast on Rails" with the emphasis on people and places rather than the type of train involved reaching them.

I fully agree, good programme getting better all the time, friends abroad(Europe) love watching it in HD.
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Julia Bradbury single-handedly ruined "Countryfile" with her lack of personality and her overbearing self-effacement and regular viewers breathed a sigh of relief when pregnancy came to the rescue.

Well put,
 
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sorry, but i have to say I still find Portillo slightly sinister, even with a pink shirt.

This ought to really freak you out then :) Spookily my Sky+ had more taste and ended the recording just before they started dancing!

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She does all her walks in what looks like the summer iirc, so they wouldn't likely be much mud. And I doubt they'd want to start filming her while she's fighting for breath (how much would you be out of breath anyway on a flat railway ramble)? As for the clothes, what do you mean "different"? Wise ramblers wear layers and than can put on and take off as they get hotter or colder.

Add to that a lot of these places are in the middle of no where so how would they get there if they didn't walk?

The same way the cameramen, sound man, make-up person, o/b producer and director get there..... by the TV company 4x4, or Volvo estate.
 

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The same way the cameramen, sound man, make-up person, o/b producer and director get there..... by the TV company 4x4, or Volvo estate.

And how you would suggest driving a 4x4 down a bridleway, or footpath, or up a mountain?

I've seen a behind the scenes something or other somewhere, and she really does do the walk and has a minimum number of people with her.

She's also President of the Ramblers, so I think she's well used to long walks in the countryside.
 
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I have watched all three programmes up to now and quite enjoyed them. Whoever presents such a programme will have their own ideas and personaities emphasised.

In this case you either like or dislike Portillo, either for his politics or as a person. I don't like his politics and find him rather arrogant and pompus. Likewise, I am not a fan of Julia Bradbury and find her quite irritating. However, I thoroughly enjoyed the walks and scenery and seeing many station sites and closed lines as they are today.

In Portillo's case, as he is folowing Bradshaw's descriptions of the past he does at least stick to this and tries to follow up the same things and places as they are today. He does that quite well, in my opinion. I liked how the term 'Bradshawing" was used by the women pilots of the 2nd World War in finding their way around. I had never heard of that before, although it would seem pretty obvious that following the railways to find places from their air was. Not so easy today with so many routes closed since those times. But still feasable in many cases.

I don't mind most of the continuity failures as making such programmes have both financial and time limitations. I try to ignore them wherever possible and not use them to criticise the programme(s). The contents and laces of interest are much more important. If you are going to watch such programmes and films with such determination as to find every fault possible you will never enjoy the work for what it was meant to be.

Major films are different in that a lot of money goes into them and they do have advisors on most of the subjects being covered. It just seems that whern it comes to railways they let themselves down virtually in every case. I feel that they deserve much of the criticism they receive on this matter.

And to Ivo, I would say ... perhaps you can do better, then again, perhaps you can't! but you can be sure that no matter how clever or thorough you think you have been YOU will miss something and make a few errors that your viewers will pick up on and criticise you for. That is certainly guaranteed. None of us are that clever! Whatever. Don't let that stop you from trying and, the best of luck.

The link with the earlier failure of the Poll Tax was also very interesting and proving that our polititians doesn't learn much from the past, while they doggedly follow their own political interests. Nothing changes much! The only good thing about this particlar case was that they both ended disastrerously and deservedly so. Polititians and the general public still hankering over the Poll Tax should have the image of that Skull imbeded in their brains before trying to ever force that tax on us ever, or try to defend the obviously indefensible.

I thought that was very timely in that it was Portillo himself who tried to push the Poll tax this last time. Talk about coming face to face with your own political failure ... Magic! I wish every failed polititian would get faced with their political distasters so vividley while they were still alive.

I have not travelled over most of the lines covered in this series so far and found all of it interesting, from the stations, the historic to the fine scenery. This has given me food for thought in considering possibly trying these lines during the year and visit some of the places mentioned.

I will continue to view the series with interest.
 

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Apparently, Michael Portillio is a really nice bloke irl. Someone from a another forum met him, and said that he really wanted to hate Portillo, but he was actually really nice with a genuine passion for railways.
 
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And how you would suggest driving a 4x4 down a bridleway, or footpath, or up a mountain?

I've seen a behind the scenes something or other somewhere, and she really does do the walk and has a minimum number of people with her.

She's also President of the Ramblers, so I think she's well used to long walks in the countryside.

Princess Anne is President of the Royal Yachting Association, but how many times have you seen HRH at the helm of a ketch?
 

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Possibly not as many as before though we did have a 156 go to an overhead of a top and tailed loco hauled and then 156 to getting off a HST. Didn't spot anything else quite so glaring in the past couple of days though
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I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking that!
Darting along that single track line at a fair speed looked great!

He nearly left his beloved Bradshaw's guide behind when he got into the class 70 though, he put it on the running plate before he climbed up the steps, and then walked straight into the cab!
 

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The same way the cameramen, sound man, make-up person, o/b producer and director get there..... by the TV company 4x4, or Volvo estate.

On these types of shoots the cameraman, soundman and location director are most likely the same person. OB Producer or make up people are not required.


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Hmmmmm, not exactly filled with her memories of the 3 peaks, or Munroes, etc. is it?

Castle Crag and the Kings Road Chelsea is the best that I can find.

From the official guide,

Castle Crag:- A nice walk suitable for those who don't like big stuff.

I'm not sure what that proves.
 

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The first Murder on the railway in tonights edition was good !!!

The driver and fireman rolled the body down the bank and he was taken into a pub and a doctor summoned.

No forensics or scenes of crime to worry about in those days:p
 
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