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TRN481V
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The recent service changes have reduced the 18 from a half-hourly service to an hourly service. This has led to many, many complaints to such an extent that the local MP Linseed Oil (sorry, Lyndsey Hoyle) has got involved and the upshot is that the company has agreed to put larger buses on the route, instead of the usual Solos. Unfortunately, the current route is not suited to Darts as it passes through housing estates and takes in tight turns at junctions and mini-roundabouts.
All that waffle was a very long-winded way of saying that you were correct
TRN481V
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Probably not, as the 109s are now Solo operated and we were already short of Solos.
The LLC contracted services 337 (Ormskirk) and 347 (Southport) have seen the Darts recently, despite being officially Solo routes.
Freshly painted 47062 is out and about today on Moorclose Circulars.
34616 back on the road after p*ssing oil last weekend, on 31.
2 B10M's out on 31's as well.
20910 out on X4's.
47007 and 52628 seem to have gone missing from service, I haven't seen 47007 for quite a few weeks now.
I'm told 16331 is off service with minor roof damage, leaves LL with 11 deckers to cover the 12 decker boards, and got an LF PVR increase on Monday morning. Should be fun fun fun.
I've also heard that a Cummins delivery vehicle was spotted on Lillyhall Ind. Est. at the end of this week, any idea if it was delivering 17017's new engine? Been about 3 months since it blew yet again. Been in Cumbria just over 12 months and has spent approx. 8 of those dead in the depot.
34616 back on the road after p*ssing oil last weekend, on 31.
2 B10M's out on 31's as well.
20910 out on X4's.
47007 and 52628 seem to have gone missing from service, I haven't seen 47007 for quite a few weeks now.
I'm told 16331 is off service with minor roof damage, leaves LL with 11 deckers to cover the 12 decker boards, and got an LF PVR increase on Monday morning. Should be fun fun fun.
I've also heard that a Cummins delivery vehicle was spotted on Lillyhall Ind. Est. at the end of this week, any idea if it was delivering 17017's new engine? Been about 3 months since it blew yet again. Been in Cumbria just over 12 months and has spent approx. 8 of those dead in the depot.
Whistler40145
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Could it be that 17017 doesn't like Cumbria's hilly roads?
That is the exact reason!
3 speed London gearbox doesn't suit long fast stretches (gearings are too low) followed by sharp uphills (longer ratios mean the torque converter can't be pumped out fast enough)....puts a lot of extra strain on the engine.
3 speed London gearbox doesn't suit long fast stretches (gearings are too low) followed by sharp uphills (longer ratios mean the torque converter can't be pumped out fast enough)....puts a lot of extra strain on the engine.
TheHovisKid
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We're they not more suited to working the 2/2a off Morecambe then?
Whistler40145
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More suited to services 42 & 61?
Whistler40145
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Those currently on services 42 & 61 are even older, but maybe are in better mechanical health?
TheHovisKid
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Can't be older than the S-reg ones, the batch ME had were the 12th-24th of Stagecoaches first batch of tridents
I'm assuming he's referring to the Olympians, which are comparable but step entrance of course (although they are 4 speed mostly).
Also worth remembering that the Tridents Morecambe had/have were the first 12-24 low floor vehicles delivered to London...
Also worth remembering that the Tridents Morecambe had/have were the first 12-24 low floor vehicles delivered to London...
Are they?
All of the R-NBV's are 3 speed Voith's, as are all of the N-NPN, N-MPN, N-LPN and N-LTN's. NC bodied P-HBA's are 4 speed ZF's, 16870 was new with a 4 speed ZF as well, but I have no idea what it has now, some times it sounds like a ZF and others it sounds like a Voith.
ZahnradFabrik
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Are they?
Beat me to that!
07andrew
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Your websites knackered for a change!
Maybe you'll need to change your webhost!
22104 was on 30 if not already reported.
ZahnradFabrik
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aha... Schoolboy error on MB's part (in his defence... do you see that michael... i'm sticking up for you!!
)MB has changed the title (to the wrong address
) of the link in post#1, and left the link pointing to old site!!HERE is a temporary, until he sorts it!
You been on the Vimto Michael??
http://mbonwick.cu.cc will be the new permanant address for my site. (And yes, I have fixed the first post!)
RE the gearboxes, that post did originally say "although most are 3 speeds" and I tried to say "only some are 4 speeds", but failed
RE the gearboxes, that post did originally say "although most are 3 speeds" and I tried to say "only some are 4 speeds", but failed
ZahnradFabrik
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http://mbonwick.cu.cc will be the new permanant address for my site. (And yes, I have fixed the first post!)
RE the gearboxes, that post did originally say "although most are 3 speeds" and I tried to say "only some are 4 speeds", but failed
EPIC FAIL!
In other news...
34218 has just had a nice rare appearance on the last 30 Into Maryport about 23:55 (and was choc-a-bloc), before running dead back to Lillyhall!
07andrew
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aha... Schoolboy error on MB's part (in his defence... do you see that michael... i'm sticking up for you!!
MB has changed the title (to the wrong address
HERE is a temporary, until he sorts it!
You been on the Vimto Michael??
Aye, no one is perfect - even I'm not that perfect unfortunately
20905 is now back in bloody Lilly's reserve fleet.
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EPIC FAIL!
In other news...
34218 has just had a nice rare appearance on the last 30 Into Maryport about 23:55 (and was choc-a-bloc), before running dead back to Lillyhall!
They should keep it on there on sunday as well. I have noticed on Solo's that it is rather packed going into Workington of a sunday.
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ZahnradFabrik
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Been at LL for a little while now. saw some use elsewhere.
although, if we do need an extra vehicle this coming week due to offages, and the imminent PVR increase on 30/1 from monday, i would assume this would be the vehicle, having already been fitted with an LED display, and also having already been an LL vehicle in the past.
Personally i would prefer 20966... That's the one with the front end off 20768! (woudl be like it's back to haunt the depot!!)
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In all fairness, seating capacity is similar, all you are really gaining is an extra pram space. Long darts could be feasible though.
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20966 doesn't have the front off 20768 unfortunately....when CE tried to mate the parts up they found they wouldn't fit! Obviously the body had changed in the intervening 4 years.
20905 must be off reserve then, I don't recall it going into service will LL after KL took 20795 to replace it.
20905 must be off reserve then, I don't recall it going into service will LL after KL took 20795 to replace it.
07andrew
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Aye agree there I used 34218 as an example in case the long darts rattled themselves to death on sundays. 34616 is a good example for rattling.
ZahnradFabrik
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It's Correction central tonight!
although it does at least have 768's front grille with the holes (albeit covered from behind - if you look at a front end photo closely, you can see it!) 905 was in service at LL BEFORE KL had it.
And it was S**t...
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07andrew
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It's Correction central tonight!
905 was in service at LL BEFORE KL had it.
And it was S**t...
get it back in service to replace 20913. bouncy...
ZahnradFabrik
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913 isnt too bad... fairly quick nowadays... but in fairness should come with sickbags with every ticket!
07andrew
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I'll give 913 benefit of the doubt and say it is better than 20918.
15683 was on a 301 today. to Hensingham Hospital.
jonesy3001
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Is 16351 gonna be the next bus to yo-yo between ME and KL like 14235 used to do?
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