I agree there are a lot of shortforms but they are supposed to be 4 so promising services will be extended to 4 is misleading as they alreafy are scheduled to be 4 and are shortformed and TfW arent guarenteeing no short forms in future so its a hollow 'success"
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MatthewE707
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Sorry if it’s already been asked, but are 221101-106 still capable of running at the faster speeds that were permitted when they were with Avanti compared to normal 221 timings?
The Planner
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No 221 EPS speeds exist on the WCML now.
Is that definitely the case? Appreciate that the Sectional Appendix isn't necessarily up to date, but it still indicates EPS 221 / EPS 390 differentials around Berkhamsted, Leighton Buzzard, Rugby and Tebay (there maybe others too, especially at the Northern/Scottish end)
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Tebay might still be there. The ones at the southern end are gone, its line speed/MU/EPS for 390s only.
KashmireHawker
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Seeing today is 29th September, let’s hope there is a decision announced.
Nothing is on the ORR website, as of yet.
Nothing is on the ORR website, as of yet.
Zontar
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With it being 07 20...I'm not surprised!
KashmireHawker
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Usually Transport announcements, whether from DfT or other agencies come at 7am, before the markets open.
Suspect they have more time with Alstom not listed.
Snow1964
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Even when regulatory announcements are made, DfT can take couple of hours to add things to its website. Alstom is so big it probably wouldn't announce anything under about €100m. (Actually Alstom has announced today, for 35 Corradia Stream Nordic, worth about €350m, which indicates value of their announcements)
ORR normally adds things to its website 09:30 - 10am
One enthusiastic MP who hinted at an announcement is all there is publicly so far.
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Zontar
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Julia Buckley has made a comment this morning, no mention of the WSMR, but a general comment on wcml. Unusual for her to make a comment when the decision not announced?
Bertiethebobby
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Any news?
Today is/was the day the ORR makes the announcement.
Edit: Sorry I hadn't seen the comments above
Today is/was the day the ORR makes the announcement.
Edit: Sorry I hadn't seen the comments above
KashmireHawker
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Still nothing yet - let’s see if it’s tomorrow, or any other day this week for that matter.
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KashmireHawker
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Next week is duly marked - here is hoping for good news, even if I think it will again result negatively.
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Probably don’t want to release bad news during the Labour/Government conference week.
Clearly with endless Nationalisation announcements taking place the last thing they want is an entrepreneurial open access operator…
Zontar
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I tend to share the same opinion.
duffield
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Are you suggesting the ORR's independence is compromised? That seems like a serious allegation to make against its members, given that it is a statutory independent body answerable to parliament and the courts, not to a minister. I hope you have some evidence of this compromise. The ORR members are chosen for their technical expertise, not their political alignment and their remit is set by the laws they are following, not by party political priorities.
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tumbledown
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(Wikipedia)
Yes let’s hope for good news!
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I think the definitions of "good" are not the same here.
In this case, I guess so!
(our defintions of good regarding football are, however, the same)
Interesting because l know, from another forum, who Kashmir supports (unless of course someone else is using the same posting name there).
Kite159
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My money will be on the application getting turned down with promises of a token daily extension of an Avanti service towards Shrewsbury.
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Avanti won't care about that.
A fourth attempt to make Shrewsbury via a slow West Midlands journey viable? The definition of madness was probably achieved with the third.
The previous three failures have already shown why an alternative faster journey solution is needed.
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No announcement today?
They said "next Tuesday" which is ambiguous. For someone posting on a Thursday, "this Tuesday" is the one immediately following and "next Tuesday" means the one following that, so 14th October.
That's how I read it anyway, I'm sure others will disagree!
That's how I read it anyway, I'm sure others will disagree!
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Julia Buckley MP told me they had to wait a week before announcing due to legal reasons, which makes it today.
norbitonflyer
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I would always understand "this ...day" to mean the one in this week, and "next ...day" to mean the one next week. So on a Thursday "this Tuesday" would mean the day before yesterday, and "next Tuesday" to mean the one in five days time, and "last Tuesday" to mean the one nine days ago. But I prefer to say "Tuesday last (this/next) week" instead, as that is less ambiguous.
Early in the week "next weekend" is ambiguous though.