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Trivia: Where tracks from traditional UK tramways still exist

etr221

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I live on a road which had double tram tracks used until the mid 1950s. Although nothing of the tracks is visible, there are suspicious cracks in the road surface which align almost perfectly with the position of the erstwhile rails. (I have photos of the trams trundling down the road).

I wonder if they are still there - slumbering, perchance to awaken and be used once again in a more enlightened era of public transport...
There was a story when I was at uni about when Cambridge was digging up the streets in relation to the new one way system, c 1970, several of the navvies bent their pneumatic drills when they struck steel - the horse tram rails (system abandoned 1914) were - surprise, surprise - still, and long forgotten, in situ under a thin layer of tarmac.

And in Chicago they had a rather different problem - a lot of the street car tracks were still in place (and visible under the low bridges - minimum clearances meant no allowance for covering them over. But somebody decided to dig them up - only to find that the lifting bridges over the Chicago River stopped working: they were powered by the former street car power supply, and were still using the rails in the circuit!
 
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Old tram tracks used to appear regularly at the top of Lichfield Street in Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. The last time I saw them was about 20 years ago, when the area was being pedestrianised. Particularly poignant, as Stoke was one of the very first abandonments in 1928.
 

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Falkner Street, Liverpool, is still paved in the original setts (and hence is a favourite site for filming). Where it turns into Hope Street, there is a distinctive pattern, the width of a track. The tracks are no longer there and have been replaced by more setts, but it is clear where the trams used to go.
 

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Some tram track was dug up on Vauxhall Bridge in 2020
The reopening of Vauxhall Bridge to general traffic - schedule for late November - has been delayed till 10 December after workers came across old tram tracks buried below the road surface for nearly 70 years.
 

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Falkner Street, Liverpool, is still paved in the original setts (and hence is a favourite site for filming). Where it turns into Hope Street, there is a distinctive pattern, the width of a track. The tracks are no longer there and have been replaced by more setts, but it is clear where the trams used to go.
The tracks in Falkner Street and Hope Street were horse car tracks, never electrified, and I believe never actually used in service.
 

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There are some on Waterloo Place, Edinburgh, from the first trams.
Also some tracks down near Ocean Terminal, Edinburgh, too, but I do not think these were trams, more likely something to do with the docks.
 

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When Barrhead Main Street was widened, quite a few years ago now, the tram tracks, disused since 1957, were revealed. Was it standard practice, when the trams stopped, to simply tarmac over the track rather than have the expense and disruption of removal?
 

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The original setts and tracks at the very northern end of Great Clowes Street in Salford are still in place - the street became a dead end and the route abandoned after a landslip in 1927.
 

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The tracks inside the old Aston tramway depot (ex Aston Manor Transport Museum) likely still exist, probably just covered over by new flooring by the current owners of the building.
 

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There are some on Waterloo Place, Edinburgh, from the first trams.
Also some tracks down near Ocean Terminal, Edinburgh, too, but I do not think these were trams, more likely something to do with the docks.
Definitely the docks’ internal rail system. I learnt to ride a bike in there in the early 70s and twin perils of falling into the dock (fortunately never happened) or into the rail-groove (quite frequently) very quickly taught me to concentrate! Still BR shunters pottering about as far in as the Victoria dock, though the steam cranes were my favourite!
 

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Not rails, but another leftover from the old tram systems. Spotted outside the Oval cricket ground in 2024.

The photo shows an access cover in the pavement with the legend London County Council Tramways.

I do wonder whether the conduit that it covers has been repurposed, or whether it just contains cables that have been redundant since the early 1950s.
 

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Not rails, but another leftover from the old tram systems. Spotted outside the Oval cricket ground in 2024.

The photo shows an access cover in the pavement with the legend London County Council Tramways.

I do wonder whether the conduit that it covers has been repurposed, or whether it just contains cables that have been redundant since the early 1950s.

I understand that the square LCCT covers - usually on pavements, and those of the same size / shape marked 'LONDON TRANSPORT', were for the private telephone network that the LCCT / LT had for the tram network. Many of the 'section boxes' / feeder pillars (picture of one, since removed, at Woolwich Ferry on Flickr here - not my photo or account) had a compartment at the top for a telephone, either for the point inspector, or so that tram crews could phone in if they had problems with their tram. (if a tram broke down, others of course couldn't pass it, so getting assistance quickly was important!)

There are still quite a lot of them in situ (the access covers, not the section boxes), which implies they are still used for something.

My understanding is that LT found that the legal powers to operate a private telephone network lapsed with the end of the tram / trolleybus network, so bus inspectors' phones at points were on the GPO network.

There's still a few access covers which are round in shape, with LCCT or LPTB markings in the middle - I understand they were for power cables. Most were in the roadway, and I haven't noticed any recently, so many have probably been removed, but there must be a few survivors, and think there's a few well off tram routes where a power cable took a short cut.
 

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I think not a passenger tramway, but Shoeburyness East Beach has some remnants of either a brick-works or military narrow-gauge tramway along the side of the road there, between the road and a car-park/boat-park.
 

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Different sort of tramway I suppose but there are the tram rails on the seafront at Swanage near the pier (And the toilets.......)
 

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Emerged a few years ago in Bradford
TRACKS from Bradford's long-lost tramway have been unearthed as part of the ongoing roadworks scheme in the city centre.
and reinstated!
Antique tram tracks have been re-laid in a city centre street as part of a £45m pedestrianisation and traffic management scheme.

The tracks were uncovered last year when Bradford's Bridge Street was being dug up as part of the long-running project.
 

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The tracks in Falkner Street and Hope Street were horse car tracks, never electrified, and I believe never actually used in service.
The Falkner Street tracks were authorised by Liverpool Corporation in 1884 and built in 1885 at the request of the Liverpool United Tramways & Omnibus Co. (who the Corporation then leased the track to) as part of the extension to Princes Park. The idea was the trams would leave the city centre via Mount Pleasant, turn onto Hope Street, then Falkner Street and then Catherine Street and then cross Upper Parliament Street onto Princes Road, For the return, they would cross Upper Parliament Street then run the full length of Catherine Street, turn onto Myrtle Street and down Hardman Street and Leece Street before turning onto Renshaw Street.

Once the tracks were built, the safety issues of running horse trams up the long, sttep gradient of Mount Pleasant became apparent and so the company petitioned the Corporation to change the route to run via the shorter, shallower gradient of Leece Street, Hardman Street and Myrtle Street in both directions, but were denied, and so the Hope Street and Falkner Street tracks were not used (ironic, as one the Company's directors, William Busby, lived on Falkner Street).

However, after the Corporation took over the Liverpool United Tramways & Omnibus Co in 1897, it did run horse trams over the Mount Pleasant-Hope Street-Falkner Street route for a very short time prior to Mount Pleasant being electrified, at which point the Hope Street and Falkner Street tracks were abandoned and eventually lifted.

As for remaining 'ghosts' of the Liverpool tram system, the cobbles in the central reservation where the pointwork of the Utting Avenue East terminus used to be are still just about visible. The line that carried the 19 route to Kirkby ROF/ Industrial Estate alongside the East Lancs Road crossed over Knowsley Brook on a bridge just before the junction with Moorgate Road, and up until the last 12-18 months the tracks embedded in the concrete were still visible, but they have now been tarmac'd over to make a cycle path.

The old cast iron and concrete dual-purpose lighting and catenary posts still existed on most of the 1920s expansion era dual carriageway central reservations into the 2000s. these were a massive safety hazard, as unlike more modern lampposts they did not deform in a collision - as a child, I remember seeing the aftermath of a coach crashing into one on Utting Avenue East - it cleaved the body in two as far back as the front axle). On Breck Road, if you look up a the buildings you can still see a few of the old catenary anchors in situ on the walls (such as here and here).
 

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Do any Salford residents know if the tram tracks at the Lanny are still visible?
Yes, there is a short section of the track still remaining at the northern end of Great Clowes Street, leading up to the landslide. The rest of Great Clowes Street to the south as far as the junction with Hope Street is still cobbled, and shows the scars from where the rails were lifted.

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I'd forgotten there is another relic of Liverpool's horse drawn trams still visible - Liverpool United Tramways & Omnibus Co. had a horse omnibus depot and stables at Whitefield Road, offf Belmont Road. When the tramlines to Breck Road and West Derby were built in the early 1880s, they were connected together via a line along Belmont Road. A branch was then constructed along Boundary Lane off West Derby Road and then down Whitefield Road to connect to the Belmont Road line. A link was provided to connect the omnibus depot to the line on Whitefield Road so it could now be used for trams as well as omnibuses.

The Whitefield Road depot and the line that linked it to Belmont Road and West Derby Road were abandoned when the Corporation switched over to electric traction. In 1906 the confectioner Barker & Dobson built a new factory and headquarters next door to the disused depot, and in 1926 they bought the depot from the Corporation so they could expand the factory. The entrance to the depot, and so the new factory was at Franklin Place off Whitefield Road, next door to The Peel pub.
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Barker & Dobson closed the factory in 1983 and the HQ relocated in 1985. The site was then demolished to build houses. However, the Whitefield Road end of Franklin Place still exists with the original cobbles and a short section of the horse-drawn tram tracks still embedded in them.
 
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I live on a road which had double tram tracks used until the mid 1950s. Although nothing of the tracks is visible, there are suspicious cracks in the road surface which align almost perfectly with the position of the erstwhile rails. (I have photos of the trams trundling down the road).

I wonder if they are still there - slumbering, perchance to awaken and be used once again in a more enlightened era of public transport...
The tram services in Kingston up the Richmond Road to the borough boundary and from the Richmond Road up Kings Road to the park gates were discontinued in the 1930s and replaced by motor and trolley buses, but when the Gas Board dug up the road junction and parts of Kings Road a few years back, I saw some large steel girders a foot or so under the road surface, beneath the hard-core, which I think might well have been to do with the tram tracks, as I can't think why else they would have been there.
 

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Salt Beer Factory in Saltaire, Bradford was a former tram depot with tracks in the yard and still looks like a tram depot
 
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A few examples off the top of my head;

Grimsby- tram tracks visible inside the workshop of the Stagecoach East Midlands garage (housed in the former tram depot). These are viewable from the street when the door is open, but even when it's shut the stub end of the track is visible.

Hull- A single line of tram track visible in a cobbled alleyway (tenfoot in local parlance) alongside shops on Anlaby Road; this formerly led to Anlaby Road depot.

Bradford- double tramlines preserved in the junction of Halifax Road with Netherlands Avenue.

In addition many main roads in Leeds still have tramlines under the surface. The last ones I saw were in Dewsbury Road during roadworks and could be seen sticking out into the holes dug by the workmen.
And back in Grimsby there are suspicious marks/lines in the road along Corporation Road and Gilbey Road where the lines of the Grimsby and Immingham Electric Railway were located. I suspect they are still present underneath the road surface.
 

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A few examples off the top of my head;

Grimsby- tram tracks visible inside the workshop of the Stagecoach East Midlands garage (housed in the former tram depot). These are viewable from the street when the door is open, but even when it's shut the stub end of the track is visible.

Hull- A single line of tram track visible in a cobbled alleyway (tenfoot in local parlance) alongside shops on Anlaby Road; this formerly led to Anlaby Road depot.

Bradford- double tramlines preserved in the junction of Halifax Road with Netherlands Avenue.

In addition many main roads in Leeds still have tramlines under the surface. The last ones I saw were in Dewsbury Road during roadworks and could be seen sticking out into the holes dug by the workmen.
And back in Grimsby there are suspicious marks/lines in the road along Corporation Road and Gilbey Road where the lines of the Grimsby and Immingham Electric Railway were located. I suspect they are still present underneath the road surface.
A lot of Leeds tram track is acting as lintels in the opening between lounge and dining room in many Leeds houses as the ending of the trams coincided with the craze for 'open-plan' living.
 

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Many years ago on a visit to Nottingham Castle, I noticed that some of the stanchions for the railings on the paths round the castle were made of tram rail. I did not photograph them.
 
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Not rails, but posts from which the wiring was hung, an embankment on which the track was laid and a tramway bridge at Gosforth Park in Newcastle upon Tyne.
 

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Tram tracks still present in Dundee at the old Maryfield Depot (which is going to become the Dundee Transport Museum hopefully), also "tracks" present in the Murraygate as well. "Tracks" as they are a combination of actual rails, at least 2 sets of points and paving stones mimicking the tram route. Plus I do have a vague memory of the rails being lifted and reset when the Murraygate was revamped a long time ago (late 1980s early 1990s?)

Think there used to be a stretch of tram track down near the Beach in Aberdeen as well as several other bits of tram related overhead cable brackets here and there around the city centre.
 

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Think there used to be a stretch of tram track down near the Beach in Aberdeen

They're now gone due to the ongoing redevelopment at the beach.

They used to head generally eastwards from the hotel at the centre left in the photo below, towards the esplanade.

Where the grassy event space / auditorium now is.


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