Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[TT-ONR-NRN]

It was blocking 3 lines while moving from the down fast to the down slow

Could there be a worse time in its journey to fail

 

[DerbySplitter]

I was back and forward to St Pancras from Derby on Saturday and both journeys were an 810. 016 down there in the morning, 022 back late evening.

Very good, smooth, journeys each way. 16 minute delay coming back though.

My only issue was the lack of working plug/USB sockets under the seats. They are hard to access, and I think most of the half dozen journeys I've done on an 810 they weren't working so I couldn't charge my phone. I had a plug and USB and neither were usable Saturday evening.

 

[Mikw]

I was back and forward to St Pancras from Derby on Saturday and both journeys were an 810. 016 down there in the morning, 022 back late evening.

Very good, smooth, journeys each way. 16 minute delay coming back though.

My only issue was the lack of working plug/USB sockets under the seats. They are hard to access, and I think most of the half dozen journeys I've done on an 810 they weren't working so I couldn't charge my phone. I had a plug and USB and neither were usable Saturday evening.

016 is the pick of the bunch so far i think. Shame they couldn't just 3D print it!

 

[midland1]

I was back and forward to St Pancras from Derby on Saturday and both journeys were an 810. 016 down there in the morning, 022 back late evening.

Very good, smooth, journeys each way. 16 minute delay coming back though.

My only issue was the lack of working plug/USB sockets under the seats. They are hard to access, and I think most of the half dozen journeys I've done on an 810 they weren't working so I couldn't charge my phone. I had a plug and USB and neither were usable Saturday evening.

What was the air con. like my only one trip on a 810 is was like have a vac. cleaner roaring above your head.

 

[DerbySplitter]

What was the air con. like my only one trip on a 810 is was like have a vac. cleaner roaring above your head.

Not too intrusive to be honest.

Certainly a smidge quieter than when I was on an 810 a few weeks ago.

Might have been where I was sitting mind.

 

[Emaharg]

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:W70691/2026-09-11/detailed#allox_id=0

810013 Just sat down at Kettering blocking the up main.
Luckily I bailed before it sat down.

 

[Amos390]

Safety systems again, same as Bedford, is really an issue that needs to be fixed

 

[mansonlo49]

Safety systems again, same as Bedford, is really an issue that needs to be fixed

bedford？you meant the accident last time?

 

[Amos390]

bedford？you meant the accident last time?

Yeah, the 810 there had a safety systems fault, you’d think they learned their lesson

 

[800001]

Yeah, the 810 there had a safety systems fault, you’d think they learned their lesson

Trains get faults, other trains across the whole network will get the same fault as what happened at Bedford.

And if I recall from the initial accident report, all signals in the area were functioning correctly, so can't see what point you are making about Bedford in regard to the 810 fault.

 

[Pippy1505]

Trains get faults, other trains across the whole network will get the same fault as what happened at Bedford.

And if I recall from the initial accident report, all signals in the area were functioning correctly, so can't see what point you are making about Bedford in regard to the 810 fault.

GSMR Fault completely different issue

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Trains get faults, other trains across the whole network will get the same fault as what happened at Bedford.

And if I recall from the initial accident report, all signals in the area were functioning correctly, so can't see what point you are making about Bedford in regard to the 810 fault.

GSMR Fault completely different issue

 

[Mikw]

Points failure today on EMR, meaning all trains from south to North from St Pancras are delayed. The Auroras seem to be doing ok so far though. Just had a smooth run on 014, didn't lose any time after the initial delay and the doors opened and closed at each station without incident.

 

[liamf656]

Yeah, the 810 there had a safety systems fault, you’d think they learned their lesson

That is a very big, sweeping allegation. Do you know exactly what safety systems were faulty today, or whether it was even true? (take into account the possibility that the delay code may not be correct).

 

[Amos390]

810019 has been consistently operating the 3A27/8 service over the last week after coming back from Old Dalby, not seeing much untoward gone on with it at the moment (as in, it’s not conked out in the middle of nowhere yet…), does anyone know what modifications were done to it and when it can be expected to haul passengers again?

 

[Merle Haggard]

I am very happy to read that the 810s are not breaking down as much now.

Has there been any progress on the interior defects that, although not a reason for taking. a train out of service, are still a massive inconvenience and pain to passengers? Lavatories and sliding interior doors out of action, air-conditioning noise, intense vibration under acceleration, that sort of stuff.

 

[liamf656]

810019 has been consistently operating the 3A27/8 service over the last week after coming back from Old Dalby, not seeing much untoward gone on with it at the moment (as in, it’s not conked out in the middle of nowhere yet…), does anyone know what modifications were done to it and when it can be expected to haul passengers again?

Various little things such as improved lighting near the doors for dispatch, improved galley environment, and a fault with the doors that was fixed. Not sure when it'll carry passengers again

I am very happy to read that the 810s are not breaking down as much now.

(apart from the one that failed on 1C17 this morning )

Has there been any progress on the interior defects that, although not a reason for taking. a train out of service, are still a massive inconvenience and pain to passengers? Lavatories and sliding interior doors out of action, air-conditioning noise, intense vibration under acceleration, that sort of stuff.

Lavatories are much better now, especially the accessible one in First Class, and I've noticed interior doors are much better too. Not sure what, if anything, is being done about vibrations or air con noise.

 

[NCT]

Do we know what's led to the lavatories becoming more reliable? Software updates / hardware tweaks? Or just crew getting to know the tricks?

Obviously not expecting anyone to say more than they are supposed to say.

Much appreciated.

 

[Trainman40083]

Various little things such as improved lighting near the doors for dispatch, improved galley environment, and a fault with the doors that was fixed. Not sure when it'll carry passengers again


(apart from the one that failed on 1C17 this morning )

Lavatories are much better now, especially the accessible one in First Class, and I've noticed interior doors are much better too. Not sure what, if anything, is being done about vibrations or air con noise.

I had cause to use the loo, on 810022 the other day. I did wonder if it would breakdown whilst I was still inside. I did think the door open button to exit, was in an odd place. Seemed to be obscured by a handrail.

 

[fadster]

Spent some time this morning looking to see if 810017 or 810020 were likely to show on a working from Old Dalby, (Asforby). I found 5Q40 off Old Dalby had indeed set off and was heading for Sheffield via Derby but no unit number posted on any websites I could find. I then checked out the Derby webcam to see if it was a five car set or two together. At Derby 5Q40 came a fair way up platform 3 and then waited for about 15 minutes before setting off for Sheffield as a single 5 car unit. Just after 5Q40 set off 5Q45 appeared on the track map at the south end of platform 3 and about 5 minutes later this set off for Stoke.
Checking through RTT it appears both these trains return to Derby as 5Q41 & 5Q46 and meet in platform 6. I'm assuming this is a un-couple/couple up testing in conjunction with longer running to Sheffield and Stoke. As I type Railcam now confirms 810020 went to Sheffield but no record of what went to Stoke.
Fadster.

 

[Amos390]

Spent some time this morning looking to see if 810017 or 810020 were likely to show on a working from Old Dalby, (Asforby). I found 5Q40 off Old Dalby had indeed set off and was heading for Sheffield via Derby but no unit number posted on any websites I could find. I then checked out the Derby webcam to see if it was a five car set or two together. At Derby 5Q40 came a fair way up platform 3 and then waited for about 15 minutes before setting off for Sheffield as a single 5 car unit. Just after 5Q40 set off 5Q45 appeared on the track map at the south end of platform 3 and about 5 minutes later this set off for Stoke.
Checking through RTT it appears both these trains return to Derby as 5Q41 & 5Q46 and meet in platform 6. I'm assuming this is a un-couple/couple up testing in conjunction with longer running to Sheffield and Stoke. As I type Railcam now confirms 810020 went to Sheffield but no record of what went to Stoke.
Fadster.

Yeah these runs were happening with 810003/4 before they returned to Newton Aycliffe, I presume that this is the same paths being used to test the new units more thoroughly, as far as I’m aware the only units in Old Dalby are 017 and 020, so I’d presume the other half of that was 017, but I’m happy to be corrected if there is any other units there I haven’t heard of yet.

 

[fadster]

I’m aware the only units in Old Dalby are 017 and 020, so I’d presume the other half of that was 017, but I’m happy to be corrected if there is any other units there I haven’t heard of yet.

I can confirm by eye that 5Q41 was 810020 and 810017.

 

[Dood75]

I can confirm by eye that 5Q41 was 810020 and 810017.

And by sight can confirm 5Q41 started out life as 810020 alone from Sheffield

 

[Amos390]

And by sight can confirm 5Q41 started out life as 810020 alone from Sheffield

Yeah 017 joined at Derby

 

[800001]

As of 1900 tonight at Merchant Park:-

810003 stores outside in yard
810025 now undergoing door modifications and other work in yard
810026 shunting out of test sheds under own power and moved into yard
810028 powered up in front of test sheds under doing static testing.

Pictures shows 003 on left, 026 in distance and 025 on right.

 

[Amos390]

810010 and 810014 are operating 10-car passenger currently - it appears 014 suffered a door fault and stuck itself to the next service (probably for capacity?): https://live.rail-record.co.uk/train.php/?c=C21785&d=2026-09-16

 

[liamf656]

810010 and 810014 are operating 10-car passenger currently - it appears 014 suffered a door fault and stuck itself to the next service (probably for capacity?): https://live.rail-record.co.uk/train.php/?c=C21785&d=2026-09-16

It's 810014 on its own. There aren't any 10 car passenger services with 810s yet

 

[810013]

Any update on when Hitachi are delivering more units?

 

[Amos390]

Any update on when Hitachi are delivering more units?

They’ve got units 017 and 020 in testing in Old Dalby, presuming they’re nearly done by now, 019 has just returned from modifications so there’s another one that EMR can use, so they’re getting 3 over the next few weeks, but not sure about out of the factory, they seem to be testing overnight as usual but not seeing any paths for anything to leave.

 

[800001]

They’ve got units 017 and 020 in testing in Old Dalby, presuming they’re nearly done by now, 019 has just returned from modifications so there’s another one that EMR can use, so they’re getting 3 over the next few weeks, but not sure about out of the factory, they seem to be testing overnight as usual but not seeing any paths for anything to leave.

Probably waiting to see if the work that they have done on 017/019 and 020 has helped with the issues affecting the fleet.

If so, get that work done on the units currently at Etches Park before releasing any more from the factory.

 

[LowLevel]

There's a pair of 222s currently at Etches Park on hand back works, couldn't see which. One debranded and shiny, the other missing a driving car and having bodywork repairs.