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Class 175s to GWR

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Another unsolicited brake application followed by a fault with the F&R selector.

Do we have any indication of what the fault or symptoms were with the direction switch ?

OTMR downloads should be able to pin point at what point and why the brake application was made along with if the fault was momentary with only a brief rise then fall in brake pressure or unit brought to a complete stand ?
 
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Not sure I agree. Every year on public roads we take our vehicles for an MOT test after three years old. The MOT inspectors have checklists of stuff and foibles wouldn't be included.

Perhaps there need to be GBR cab exams every year
Whether there should or shouldn’t was not my point. Someone coming new to something (it’s not the thing that is new, but their interaction with it) is more likely to see something as a (potential) major difficulty than someone who has been interacting with that something for years and has got inured to its “little ways”.
That’s not a value judgment on the particular issue with the 175 sunflowers (familiarity breeding contempt is itself a safety issue) but may explain why it’s now “a problem” when it wasn’t before.
Equally isn’t luminous paint another example of something where the modern, safer, product is less effective than its predecessors?
 

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The first 175 in public service was the middle of December, the longest night not far off. Why wasn't the sunflower problem picked up then?
There's something else going on with the management, unions, train crew. How did the first 175s operate Newquay as it would be getting dark round 4pm?

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112 doing Plymouth- Paignton-Exeter-Plymouth. 113 doesn't look like it left the depot and a 2 car 158 is on the key 2Co5 diagram.
 
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Is this another problem for Wolverton. Another week and no trains. Ten weeks.

I don't know the trains ever got to Laira; to fair one did take two days.
 

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Is this another problem for Wolverton. Another week and no trains. Ten weeks.

I wonder if GWR have now bared their teeth and told Wolverton that they will not accept a transfer if there is even a hint of any type of fault on the unit, no matter how small, where as in the past they may have accepted some faults with a view to rectifying them once they receive the unit but to GWRs detriment in the long run ?
 

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I wonder if GWR have now bared their teeth and told Wolverton that they will not accept a transfer if there is even a hint of any type of fault on the unit, no matter how small, where as in the past they may have accepted some faults with a view to rectifying them once they receive the unit but to GWRs detriment in the long run ?
Are they actually going on test runs at Wolverton before any moves to GWR?
 

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Are they actually going on test runs at Wolverton before any moves to GWR?

You would certainly think that it would be prudent and sensible to do so considering on how much work may have been carried out during their stay at Wolverton, not to mention the time in storage that could/probably have caused issues.
 

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You would certainly think that it would be prudent and sensible to do so considering on how much work may have been carried out during their stay at Wolverton, not to mention the time in storage that could/probably have caused issues.
It feels rather like GWR were naïve when they took the units on and/or hadn't done their due diligence on condition. With the fault free running requirement, plus whatever conditions they have imposed on Angel and Wolverton, maybe they have learnt...
 

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have brought forward BillStampy table highlighting how long GWR have had each train What have the engineers been doing?

175001 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: November 5, 2025)
175002 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 27 November 2024
175003 Laira (Wolverton arrival: March 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: September 18, 2025)
175004 Exeter TMD (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026) (Wolverton Departure: June 23rd, 2026)
175005 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 1st, 2026) by road
175006 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175007 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 28 February 2025
175009 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 27 January 2025
175010 Penzance T.R.S.M.D. (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 13 January 2026 post 2085
175011 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175101 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton Departure: January 23 2026)
175102 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: October 30, 2025)
175103 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: March 27, 2026) Green
175104 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
175105 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 27, 2026)
175106 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025)
175107 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175108 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175109 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: April 16, 2026)
175110 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026) Green
175111 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton Departure: March 20, 2026)
175112 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025, Wolverton departure: February 20, 2026)
175113 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 15, 2026)
175114 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 5 December 2024
175115 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton departure: April 13, 2026)
175116 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 30, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 28, 2026)

I've copy pasted and added in bold. Created by BillStampy

Before this gets lost in the mists of time.
Wolverton have had 106/107/108 over a year, two 18 months Green trains according to the train database.

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112 is out and about this evening. 113 has retired to Laira. 112 due back at Laira at 0025
 
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have brought forward BillStampy table highlighting how long GWR have had each train What have the engineers been doing?

175104 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings

175106 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025)
175107 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175108 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
Before this gets lost in the mists of time.
Wolverton have had 106/107/108 over a year, two 18 months Green trains according to the train database.

There have been occasional rumours circulating suggesting that some 175 parts are in short supply ? We did, at times, have some temporary supply issues and in the main overcome them by using a "rolling rob" procedure between units. Not ideal !

Could the lack of supply of some parts be more than temporary and 106, 107, 108 have been robbed of parts to service other units ? If so I hope that they have put in a decent tracking system to what has been robbed and to which units robbed parts ended up on. When we had long term stopped units or individual cars a tracking system was essential for the amount of parts that could have been potentially robbed as if not it would certainly have caused issues replacing the robbed parts to the donors as its not always obvious to what may have been robbed !

Why is 104 Billy no mates at Ely ?
 

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Can only guess. 005 came by road to Wolverton. I presume because of it's condition. Maybe 104 is the same. It is also reported maybe somewhere on this thread or another site that half of 008 also came by road. Ely Papworth is also reported to be closing.

A video dated 5 May 2026 shows 005 and 104 alongside each other. 005 went to Wolverton 1 July 2026. On the other side of the the sidings is half a 175 which must be 008.
I did take snips but I get into trouble here with the admin if I post things so go to youtube and seek out

Flyover....Ely Papworth Sidings HSTs and stored stock 05 05 2026​

I have downloaded the video.
 
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Can only guess. 005 came by road I presume because of it's condition. Maybe 104 is the same. It is also reported maybe somewhere on this thread or another site that half of 008 also came by road.

Yes possibly or Wolverton just have too much on their 175 plate to want another there ?

They must be feeling the pressure to get things right as much as GWR !
 

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They’d be better off reactivating those Castles for 12 months until the 175s are utterly reliable. I know it can’t happen though.
I should have said wolverton not ely 1 July. I have edited my post.

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Filmed in the sky! Ely Papworth Sidings. Stored HSTs and more, 17/08/26

Another video on youtube showing only 104 and half 008.
 
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Can only guess. 005 came by road to Wolverton. I presume because of it's condition. Maybe 104 is the same. It is also reported maybe somewhere on this thread or another site that half of 008 also came by road. Ely Papworth is also reported to be closing.

A video dated 5 May 2026 shows 005 and 104 alongside each other. 005 went to Wolverton 1 July 2026. On the other side of the the sidings is half a 175 which must be 008.
I did take snips but I get into trouble here with the admin if I post things so go to youtube and seek out

Flyover....Ely Papworth Sidings HSTs and stored stock 05 05 2026​

I have downloaded the video.

Just watched the video on youtube and both the 180s and 175s have tarpaulin covering the roof sections above the gangways which also stretches across and above the electrical cupboards which I have my suspicions as to why they have done that :rolleyes: but I don`t understand why they haven`t also done the same above the cab electrical cupboards ?

Also what are the notices affixed to the inside of the cab windscreens, non multi signs ? one of them on 104 looks like its fell off onto the top of the desk. Is it the possible the non multi scenario was the reason 005 was transported to Wolverton and will 104 have to be also ?

The scorch marks are still visible on the outside of 008 and all the underframe equipment apart from the bogies appears to have been removed, the engine raft was initially removed for investigation.
 

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To reiterate, the 2 modified sets are due to head to Laira on Sept 24th.
Also of note, the set at Long Rock is to be sent back to Wolverton as it is basically useless.
 

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No 175s in passenger service today according to RTT.

Two (112 & 113) on what I assume is a training/mileage accumulation run. Whether RTT is right, who knows…

Roy
Correct, 150266 on the usual 175 passenger diagram today (2C05/2E11/2C32/2E28).

158766 also out on one of the other diagrams, and as mentioned already 175112/113 out on the training diagram in Cornwall.
 

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Have Long Rock been attempting to rectify faults on 010 that it turned up with from Wolverton and they have been unable too ?
I believe 010 never actually went to Wolverton, and instead came down directly from Ely hauled by a couple of 37s.

From what I heard a few months ago it had still been untouched, not sure if that has changed now though?
 

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