Class15
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I don’t agree - GBR needs a unified livery, although I’m not a fan of the current one.
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Great British Railways - First Train in New Livery
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MboroFC
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Isn't it supposed to be GBR | East Coast??
Class15
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This, and GBR | West Coast, and GBR | Anglia!
zwk500
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GBR doesn't *need* a unified livery. It does, however, need a clear and coherent identity, which just re-badging TOCs doesn't properly accomplish. However, BR showed with sectorisation that different liveries as part of different branding could be very powerful in aiding separation of market segments.
That's not to say a unified livery couldn't work - many countries do have this. But I'd suggest that if GBR should seek to differentiate Intercity from Regional and Commuter services at the very least.
Class15
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Maybe take some inspiration from other European countries then, and design a similar but red or white-themed (ideally white) for intercity. I don’t agree with keeping TOC liveries.
Merle Haggard
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I wonder if it will be 'GBR - London Northwestern'. If the two sub-TOCs are re-combined into 'GBR - West Midlands' then it may have to be un-picked if the =WM Mayor takes over what's now WMR.
Electrostar387
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If this is true... then the LNER Class 91 GBR livery is ace. Looked good as LNER and looks great as GBR.
Im led to believe it is meant to be delivered to Banbury, prior to it's unveiling next week.Thanks @Mag_seven
Keep your eyes on this:
5H80 1738 Eastleigh Trsmd to Wembley Lmd (Friday 11th September)
Typically, Chiltern ROG moves are between Eastleigh and Banbury so a move to Wembley may be significant.. maybe GBR significant
Oh and sunset is at 19:29 pm
Class15
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What’s up with that routing? Does the Dudding Hill line not exist anymore?!Thanks @Mag_seven
Keep your eyes on this:
5H80 1738 Eastleigh Trsmd to Wembley Lmd (Friday 11th September)
Typically, Chiltern ROG moves are between Eastleigh and Banbury so a move to Wembley may be significant.. maybe GBR significant
Oh and sunset is at 19:29 pm
RUK
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It’s already been put onto real trains…
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Apart from needing to find a path up the Western and then across Acton, I suspect it's fat easier to go via Oxford.
Not even sure the paperwork allows a right turn at reading, either.
XCTurbostar
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What is the issue date of this document please?
TT-ONR-NRN
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It might be a way of getting the GBR name on legally before First Trenitalia’s time is up. The private company will very much want their name remaining until then.
As for when the time IS up, well, Heidi said it herself rather hilariously
XCTurbostar
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The irony!
New path now in for just Banbury Depot:
TT-ONR-NRN
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The renders are really interesting. Are there anymore like that please?
Amd these have appeared, also, for a week today. (Thursday 17th)
XCTurbostar
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Seems to confirm your suspicions about it being kept at Banbury!
As to if the Eastleigh to Banbury path is the train, its hard to tell.
Voyager lad
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Spotted the GBR Mk5 set today during taxi/takeoff from Southampton Airport… just visible if you’re sat on the right hand side of the aircraft facing north on the runway. It’s tucked away behind a Chiltern liveried set.
RUK
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Could you see a GBR-liveried Class 68 to go with the coaching stock set?
Northerngirl
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I would be very happy indeed if this is what they do go with for the next few years until a competent brand identity is created
Voyager lad
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With the other set in front I couldn’t see, though there definitely was a 68 attached so I’d say it’s quite likely!
A double feature, one might think?
If there is only 1 loco and 1 set liveried, would it not be possible for said cl.68 to be switched out so the liveried carriages are pulled by non liveried loco and vice versa?
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I still genuinely cannot fathom who signed off on this livery/branding and why it's still being applied to rolling stock.
I thought it might grow on me over time; but no. It really is bad; I have no idea how a professional design agency could come up with something like this.
My daughter could come up with something more coherent, and she's 4!
I thought it might grow on me over time; but no. It really is bad; I have no idea how a professional design agency could come up with something like this.
My daughter could come up with something more coherent, and she's 4!
Yes, exactly the same as when hst's, mk4 sets etc were liveried and then split up over time to become mismatched.