Haywain
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What problem? It hasn't affected capacity. They'll get it out later I'm sure.It says much for the (in)efficiency of the railway that the cart has not been moved after 8 hours (noting the timings of the two posts!). Far easier to tape if off and admire the problem than actually solve it.
Lifting it back to the platform will probably involve isolating the overhead lines, and that would take out most or all of the station, so it's better to lose just one platform until it can be done without causing such major disruption.It says much for the (in)efficiency of the railway that the cart has not been moved after 8 hours (noting the timings of the two posts!). Far easier to tape if off and admire the problem than actually solve it.
It says much for the (in)efficiency of the railway that the cart has not been moved after 8 hours (noting the timings of the two posts!).
Push it the rest of the way off and run it as a passenger serviceWhat non-disruptive method of immediate removal do you think should have been adopted?
Push it the rest of the way off and run it as a passenger service
When a large porters luggage barrow went off the platform at Bristol TM long ago it was a 30 second job by anyone in uniform (porters, drivers) to get it back up.What non-disruptive method of immediate removal do you think should have been adopted?
probably true, but "the past is a different country..." I have (almost) come to accept it!When a large porters luggage barrow went off the platform at Bristol TM long ago it was a 30 second job by anyone in uniform (porters, drivers) to get it back up.
How much did the porter's barrow weigh, and how much does the assistance cart weigh?When a large porters luggage barrow went off the platform at Bristol TM long ago it was a 30 second job by anyone in uniform (porters, drivers) to get it back up.
Indeed. The railway has become incapacitated in its ability to get things done. Instead of just moving the thing, we have track blocks, platforms out of use, taping off the area and a whole load of excuses for being totally useless. Electric buggy 1, Paddington Station Staff 0.When a large porters luggage barrow went off the platform at Bristol TM long ago it was a 30 second job by anyone in uniform (porters, drivers) to get it back up.
It might be people don't seem to be taking any notice.Are we sure it's not an AI photo?
I take it Switzerland don't have luggage / mail vehicles at all on platforms or do they all have platform edge doors to prevent this accident or do Swiss staff never have medical episodes when using such vehicles? Of course it could happen.This is the rail industry in microcosm: instead of removing the obstruction quickly, they're finding reasons why it can't be done. Throwing in the towel seems to be the default reaction to even the most trivial challenge now.
If this had happened in Switzerland - which, of course, it couldn't have - it would have been removed within an hour. But the work ethic and pride in one's job is far higher on their rail network than ours.
How many times - it isn't AI, I should know as it is my photo.It might be people don't seem to be taking any notice.
Exactly - and what has been explained upthread, if people bothered to read the properly-informed comments. "Jumping in" might seem quick and easy, but a few second's thought shows that it will be a significant weight and not necessarily easy to handle either.Pride is causing minimal delay to passengers - it would have required a line block and probably an electrcal isolation affecting more platforms and resultant delays. Pride is also about doing a task proffesionaly and safely.
Work ethic - so jump down and retrieve it immediately. That's a dead weight and a vehicle at an unstable angle. The potential for serious injury retrieving that by "handballing" it back on the platform is very high. So easy to hurt your back, slip a disk the list goes on.
Remove it in the small hours with a road rail vehicle doing the work with a properly thought out plan.
To be fair, it looks very AI because of the weird angle of the cart even though it clearly is a real photograph with the other photos backing that up.How many times - it isn't AI, I should know as it is my photo.
It was still there when I went home at 0140 this morning. It’s not AI, it had been shown on signals maps all of yesterday.To be fair, it looks very AI because of the weird angle of the cart even though it clearly is a real photograph with the other photos backing that up.
AI tends to churn out photos like this when asked and the fact no one seems that bothered about the mishap just adds to it!
On Opentraintimes maps of Paddington it is not showing blocked for that platform so I would assume it has now been removed.Society is really cooked when people can't distinguish AI photos from real ones. I assume this is an innate skill that people have because nothing about that image would suggest it was generated to me.
Has the buggy gone by now? (1020, Sunday)