Do any DOO drivers still use screens on the platform to dispatch?

[renegademaster]

On the GTR network most of the screens seem to be out of service, except for ones that the platform staff use , like at Sutton. Has anywhere in the country kept the old method or is it all in cab monitors now?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Chiltern still use mirrors. May well be screens at some stations. Nothing on the units.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

There's plenty of DOO monitors and mirrors about on ScotRail around Glasgow

 

[Parallel]

Pretty sure some of the GWR Turbo routes use mirrors. Google images suggests there is a mirror at Cookham station, for example.

 

[800002]

Chiltern use a DOO mirror, rated to various train lengths, south of Banbury / over the Met line from AVP to Harrow or DOO monitors screens, placed in banks to allow for different stopping places, like the mirrors.

The 196 units will have body side cameras for DOO use.

 

[whoosh]

South Eastern.

707s and 377s have bodyside cameras and in-cab monitors, but everything else doesn't.

 

[bluegoblin7]

Technically OPO (One Person Operation) rather than DOO, but LUL still use mirrors/monitors on the Bakerloo and Piccadilly lines. The latter will be continuing for plenty of time yet.

 

[bramling]

South Eastern.

707s and 377s have bodyside cameras and in-cab monitors, but everything else doesn't.

Think c2c does for the 357s?

 

[philthetube]

Chiltern use a DOO mirror, rated to various train lengths, south of Banbury / over the Met line from AVP to Harrow or DOO monitors screens, placed in banks to allow for different stopping places, like the mirrors.

The 196 units will have body side cameras for DOO use.

You also sometimes see drivers stopping mid platform and hanging out of the window to check platforms. more convenient for passengers but? This is with 2/3 car trains. this between Amersham and Ricky SB where the curves go the right way.

 

[Bletchleyite]

You also sometimes see drivers stopping mid platform and hanging out of the window to check platforms. more convenient for passengers but? This is with 2/3 car trains. this between Amersham and Ricky SB where the curves go the right way.

I think there are a few stations where "look back" is the only method. Fairly sure this is (or was) the case on the Windsor branch? Though that of course only has the two stations.

 

[bluegoblin7]

Look back is still an approved method for Chiltern DOO at a number of Met stations.

 

[800002]

You also sometimes see drivers stopping mid platform and hanging out of the window to check platforms. more convenient for passengers but? This is with 2/3 car trains. this between Amersham and Ricky SB where the curves go the right way.

Look back is still an approved method for Chiltern DOO at a number of Met stations.

Yes, but there are still requirements to fulfill.
Upto certain train lengths at certain locations are permissible.

Ordinarily though trains should be stopped at the relevant stop board attached to the applicable DOO device.

 

[MerlinRail 804]

I sometimes see chiltern drivers using lookback even when stopped at monitors/mirrors

 

[RUK]

Think c2c does for the 357s?

Yes, Class 357s use the platform-side equipment on North Thameside (as it was called in BR days)/Essex Thameside/the London, Tilbury & Southend Railway, rather than having train-mounted cameras and in-cab monitors.

 

[mickey]

I think there are a few stations where "look back" is the only method. Fairly sure this is (or was) the case on the Windsor branch? Though that of course only has the two stations.

One station, Slough is full dispatch by platform staff for all GWR services. Of course they have to look backwards to the dispatcher… but you get the point.

 

[800301]

I think there are a few stations where "look back" is the only method. Fairly sure this is (or was) the case on the Windsor branch? Though that of course only has the two stations.

From Slough P1, you have to look back at the dispatcher for the white bat/light, you then get RA for departure, at Windsor there are some very poor DOO monitors that currently prevent 3 car trains being used on the branch

 

[class ep-09]

Regularly, in GWR land Turbo services use mirrors or look back between Oxford and Didcot ( so Oxford and Banbury).
Also , on very rare occasions mirrors, CCTV monitors and look back will also apply for Turbos between Didcot and Reading, if short of 387’s.

I do not know if there is any booked stopper between Oxford / Didcot and Reading booked to be Turbo to be honest .

 

[MichaelDono]

On NR metals, the Tyne and Wear metro has screens at Park Lane and Sunderland stations

 

[dk1]

They seem so old fashioned nowadays compared to in-cab TMS operated cameras. Those dreadful mirrors too. I used to prefer to look back but then we only operated DOO with a single 3-car 170. I used to pity drivers of 8/12-car units especially on sunny days.

 

[wls1]

They seem so old fashioned nowadays compared to in-cab TMS operated cameras. Those dreadful mirrors too. I used to prefer to look back but then we only operated DOO with a single 3-car 170. I used to pity drivers of 8/12-car units especially on sunny days.

Just out of interest, where did the 170s operate DOO?

 

[dk1]

Just out of interest, where did the 170s operate DOO?

Between Ipswich & Liverpool Street on the then alternate through services from Lowestoft/Peterborough. Nice idea bu a total waste of scarce DMU recourses at the time. DOO was only permitted on single units. Trains like the combined 07:05 ex-Yarmouth/06:44 ex-Lowestoft ‘The East Anglian’ had to have a guard rostered too.

There where tentative plans to operate them through to Stansted from Norwich should NX have retained the franchise in 2012. These services would have been DOO between Ely and the airport.

 

[MasterPhillips]

I do not know if there is any booked stopper between Oxford / Didcot and Reading booked to be Turbo to be honest .

Only 1 a day between Oxford/Didcot and Reading. 2L00, the 0355 from Oxford to Reading.

 

[MarlowDonkey]

Regularly, in GWR land Turbo services use mirrors

There are mirrors too on the Maidenhead to Marlow branch although not at Marlow. There's always two crew members running to Marlow. The Guard used to inspect tickets, but perhaps not any more as Marlow now has a ticket machine, a contactless reader and penalty fare notices. The branch is still operated by 165s.