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Work is going to start sept 2027-
Could you elaborate, what works will start September 2027?Work is going to start sept 2027-
Ok. Understood .Renewing of the Sheepwash Bridge - so that Platform 5 line can be completed - apologies thought i was reply to the bridge thread
"Will this Oxford route reopen?" - what a clickbait title. An inverted example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines: ""Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."“Rail Focus” YouTube channel has uploaded a good summary video of the whole project, covering the reasoning behind decisions to widen and deepen the road etc. Most of us will be aware of most of the background, but it seems to give a good overview of the overall project.
The road shouldn't need closing (I wouldn't rule out a matter of days, though I don't know what for), but it'll probably need the western entrance too enable the existing entrance to be demolished.Looks nice and roomy for the P4/5 island and also reasonably sized for the western new entrance... the platform 2 through road is tantalizing... although they may not need quite the same degree of closure/s again, I hope not.
The future platform 2 bridge was to be built rail capable, the same design as the future P5 bridge. But if the through P2 goes ahead they’ll have to remove the temporary pedestrian deck from it, and add an additional pedestrian bridge. I’d have thought that would only need a very short closure to crane it in, it will be a much lighter and narrower structure, and ought to be fully completed at delivery..The road shouldn't need closing (I wouldn't rule out a matter of days, though I don't know what for), but it'll probably need the western entrance too enable the existing entrance to be demolished.
That should be doable in a day with modern techniques. There may be other relatively short closures required associated with demolishing the existing station and building the new one. But nothing affecting road traffic for any significant timescales.The future platform 2 bridge was to be built rail capable, the same design as the future P5 bridge. But if the through P2 goes ahead they’ll have to remove the temporary pedestrian deck from it, and add an additional pedestrian bridge. I’d have thought that would only need a very short closure to crane it in, it will be a much lighter and narrower structure, and ought to be fully completed at delivery..
Might not even need that if the new loop can be used northbound, and existing northbound used instead for southbound trains. Would temporarily lose any terminating facility in through platforms, but shouldn't need a complete closure of the area. The buildings are fairly low so shouldn't really need 4th track away from them closed during demolition.That should be doable in a day with modern techniques. There may be other relatively short closures required associated with demolishing the existing station and building the new one. But nothing affecting road traffic for any significant timescales.
You might be able to run the through services though just the 4/5 island, but I expect anything using the 1&2 bays is going to have to either be cancelled or carefully inserted into the timetable for the main platforms and somewhere found to turn them.Might not even need that if the new loop can be used northbound, and existing northbound used instead for southbound trains. Would temporarily lose any terminating facility in through platforms, but shouldn't need a complete closure of the area. The buildings are fairly low so shouldn't really need 4th track away from them closed during demolition.
The new P5 line will become the main northbound route, it’s faster over the junctions than the existing P4, you were in the discussion on page 2 of this thread where you’d linked a pdf of a NR brief with the speeds over the points.Might not even need that if the new loop can be used northbound, and existing northbound used instead for southbound trains. Would temporarily lose any terminating facility in through platforms, but shouldn't need a complete closure of the area. The buildings are fairly low so shouldn't really need 4th track away from them closed during demolition.
I was thinking of road closures, but the new arrangements could permit some through trains to run using only the western island during a rebuild of the building and 1/2/3. Terminating trains would be more challenging, but this is moving into speculation territory.Might not even need that if the new loop can be used northbound, and existing northbound used instead for southbound trains. Would temporarily lose any terminating facility in through platforms, but shouldn't need a complete closure of the area. The buildings are fairly low so shouldn't really need 4th track away from them closed during demolition.
From tomorrow (Friday 17 July), the new southern walkway will open and the northern walkway will temporarily close for finishing works.
The new, wider southern walkway runs from Domino’s on Frideswide Square to the Westgate Hotel on Botley Road![]()
Please dismount from bikes and scooters on the walkway![]()
Marshals will be on hand to help![]()
The new, wider southern walkway links Frideswide Square with Botley Road, close to Oxford station.
Oh dear! That would seriously jeopardise implementation of the Traffic Filters project, due to launch on 14 September.In terms of Botley Road reopening, one of the local vloggers spoke to a contractor on site and was apparently told it'll be delayed by a month because the gas main was disturbed during works.
If true, this week's resident update may be postponed as well depending on the (as yet unconfirmed) impact of the gas leak on project delivery and any mitigations if needed.Network Rail is expected to make an announcement next week confirming the date for reopening as August 31 - or possibly one or two days earlier.
And a separate announcement is expected, according to one industry insider, about what will now happen with the major scheme to upgrade Oxford station, including the provision of a new western entrance.
It has been confirmed today that Botley Road in Oxford will remain closed beyond the end of August.
Recently, during excavation work relating to drainage for the new road, three minor gas leaks were identified on part of the gas network, owned by SGN. The pipe has not been damaged by the Network Rail work.
In the interests of safety, and to avoid disruptive and unplanned work to repair potential gas leaks in the future, Network Rail has agreed to accommodate work by gas distribution company SGN to replace a section of their network beneath Botley Road, as well as completing existing Network Rail work.
SGN’s work is essential to maintain a safe and reliable gas supply to homes, businesses and the local community. The work will likely take around four-six weeks, and Network Rail is working closely with SGN to confirm a new re-opening date for the road.
Network Rail and SGN are working collaboratively to integrate their programmes, and a further update will be provided as soon as possible.
It never ends…From today's Oxfordshire Connect newsletter, some bad news
You would have thought with the scale of disruption in the area and the extensive excavations required that all utilities would have been consulted about renewing their assets coincidental with these works.It never ends…
Whilst I fully understand that combining utility works makes sense while the road is closed and you have access, it does feel like it’s one thing after another unfortunately.
That assumes the utilities know where their assets are and the state of them. A large chunk of the delay in this project has been Thames Water working out where their sewer and fresh water supply were and how they could reroute them. Also various electrical and communication cables that took some time to identify the owners.You would have thought with the scale of disruption in the area and the extensive excavations required that all utilities would have been consulted about renewing their assets coincidental with these works.
The pipe has not been damaged by the Network Rail work.
SGN will be replacing the old, metal pipe with a new longer-lasting plastic one. This will ensure they can avoid disruptive gas leaks in the future and continue to maintain a safe and efficient gas supply to residents, businesses, and the local community.
Looking beyond the February bridge replacement works, the planned drainage system (including a new surface water flood defence tank) has been redesigned. As a result the associated milestone is 're-sequenced' from 2 April to 17 July 2026, but it also means a reduction in build complexity and - in theory, at least - the likelihood of Botley Road reopening on 31 August 2026 has increased.
These days heads should roll is a turn of phrase demanding those in charge resign, not an actual demand for medieval capital punishment.There will be the usual suspects demanding that "heads should roll" (what and decapitate the project managers?).
Utilities like NR have been funded for decades by their respective regulators to have a robust asset database. With gas they also need to know what the pipes are made of and if its cast iron they are mandated to be removed by 2032. Its noted above this is a metal pipe but not whether its cast iron. None of this is of NRs making and im sure those that have been involved with the project will be equally frustrated by this latest issue to inflict the project. Im sure with the rest of the project being largely rail infrastructure it will seem like a walk in the park.That assumes the utilities know where their assets are and the state of them. A large chunk of the delay in this project has been Thames Water working out where their sewer and fresh water supply were and how they could reroute them. Also various electrical and communication cables that took some time to identify the owners.
I would imagine they’ve been funded to establish a robust asset database. In some cases this will only be possible by digging everything up and having a look. This whole episode has illustrated the limitations of what can be done from the surface.Utilities like NR have been funded for decades by their respective regulators to have a robust asset database. With gas they also need to know what the pipes are made of and if its cast iron they are mandated to be removed by 2032.