"Trivia" Through stations with extremely few passenger trains which do not call

[SteveyBee131]

These days everything stops at Habrough, except that is, for the Northern "Fish & Chips Special" (Sheffield to Cleethorpes via Retford) weekdays only parliamentary service.

Once upon a time, Habrough was only served by the Barton stopper, Grimsby Town to Newark (which back then were only half a dozen or so a day) and 1 in 2 or 3 of the TransPennine services. One train every 2 to 3 hours, compared to today's 2 trains an hour most of the day - how times change!

 

[Strathclyder]

Off topic, but that is its booked route in the WTT now, for route knowledge retention. 1036 Glasgow to Oban does it the other way.

Cheers for confirming my suspicions. Makes sense if the Singer/Maryhill route is ever shut. Also explains why there's been so many 3Wxx workings between Dumbarton Central & Springburn/Eastfield being routed that way in recent months.

 

[BeijingDave]

Can anyone explain why the powers that be would schedule every train except for one to stop at a particular station?

There has been an example for a few years of a stopping service from Chester to Manchester in the late evening that stops almost everywhere except Warrington Bank Quay because WBQ is staffed and closes at midnight (whereas Runcorn East, for example, is unstaffed and just has open access to the platforms).

 

[plugwash]

Can anyone explain why the powers that be would schedule every train except for one to stop at a particular station?

Afaict there are a few reasons it can happen.

1. The timetabling doesn't work for that particular train (at busy stations often no two hours are identical because of long distance trains, peak extras and so-on), and non-stopping buys an extra minute or two to make it work.
2. The operator wants to operate one particular train as fast as possible for marketing purposes.
3. The train passes through outside the stations opening hours.
4. The operator wants to be able to divert the train without having to lay on replacement transport.
5. The operator wants to keep local/regional passengers off a particularly busy long distance train (afaict this is why some TPE services skip bolton)

 

[Dave W]

Anyone mentioned Stourbridge Junction yet? One XC each way per day. Kidderminster will be the same but I think everything else on the line has at least 2 skips each way (WMT skip some, Chiltern skip most - Droitwich has an additional two XCs that goes via Bromsgrove)

 

[noddingdonkey]

I think it's diverted or bustituted at the moment due to TRU, but Huddersfield usually has a Sheffield-Manchester Airport service running through in the early morning for route retention.

 

[kkong]

Arbroath.

I believe the only passenger service which doesn't call there is 1S45, the northbound XC service from Plymouth to Aberdeen.

 

[Chorley Cake]

Runcorn ?

 

[Kite159]

Runcorn ?

One a day (1F10 0507 Crewe to Liverpool Lime Street) and on Saturdays only the 2217 Liverpool Lime Street to Crewe. Both run nonstop

 

[devon_belle]

As demonstrated on late evenings this week, Hove, Shoreham, Lancing, and Angmering have no booked passes but get them during diversions.

 

[Kilopylae]

Yes as you say, but may also include stations which see passenger trains passing through non-stop on an established diversionary route from their booked route and where everything else stops.

I think Weston-super-Mare is non-stop on diversion only?

 

[renegademaster]

Does anything not call at East/North Dulwich/Peckham Rye?
It gets a lot of Selhurst-London Bridge ECS but nothing in passenger service I think.

Most LO stations, excluding the Brighton Mainline and Watford DC ones would count right or do they have some weird services that don't call at every stop?

 

[Barnsley]

1R00, 0536 York - Hull is the only train that does not stop at Brough

 

[MatAshton]

Is there many passes through Winchester? I've seen 159s non stop on diversion from Salisbury,

Potentially either an early/late XC?

 

[Kite159]

Is there many passes through Winchester? I've seen 159s non stop on diversion from Salisbury,

Potentially either an early/late XC?

Probably happens daily when SWR control decides to rip out all stops on a Weymouth train so it runs fast from Southampton Central due to being late because they see that everybody wants to travel to London.

 

[Kilopylae]

Torre is only skipped by 1M41, 1M61, 1A98, and 1B91.

Is so few trains skipping Torre a somewhat recent development, or was I always lucky/unlucky when I was on that line? My recollection was that there were a fair few 'semi-fasts' that skipped Starcross and Torre but called at Dawlish and Teignmough.

 

[Sir Felix Pole]

All trains call at Wilmslow apart from two XC peak services and a late night Northern Crewe to Piccadilly via Mcr Airport.

 

[class ep-09]

Hanborough on North Cotswold Line , I think there is only one a week ( Sundays) train that does not stop : 17.31 Hereford to London.
It definitely did not stop last Sunday nor it was advertised to do so.

 

[thenorthern]

Has anyone mentioned Shipley in West Yorkshire? The only train that does not call there is the daily Kings Cross to Skipton train due to the short length of Platform 2.

 

[matchmaker]

Stirling? It used to be that a morning Aberdeen to Glasgow and an evening Glasgow to Aberdeen didn't stop there. Now, apart from an evening Glasgow to Dundee which stops to pick up only, I think everything stops, even the sleeper.

 

[BeijingDave]

I don't think Swansea has been mentioned.

Wasn't there usually a service to Carmarthen that used the avoiding line (in most timetable years)?

I don't think it can technically count though given the service doesn't go through lines with platforms.

 

[GordonT]

I don't think Swansea has been mentioned.

Wasn't there usually a service to Carmarthen that used the avoiding line (in most timetable years)?

I don't think it can technically count though given the service doesn't go through lines with platforms.

But if technically it *would* have done if it did have a booked stop it seems reasonable to include it. Perhaps this will encourage other similar examples.

 

[Kite159]

But if technically it *would* have done if it did have a booked stop it seems reasonable to include it. Perhaps this will encourage other similar examples.

Similar to the Fishguard service which used to avoid Carmarthen?

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Has anybody mentioned Johnstone station, which is skipped by a single daily train (the 1K43 1630 Glasgow Central to Ayr), which also skips Paisley Gilmour Street. Unlike the days before Covid where both stations had regular fasts passing through (2tph Ayr 'fast' trains)

 

[81A]

Hanborough on North Cotswold Line , I think there is only one a week ( Sundays) train that does not stop : 17.31 Hereford to London.
It definitely did not stop last Sunday nor it was advertised to do so.

The 0510 Oxford to Worcester (weekdays) also doesn't call (or at least didn't when last I checked).

 

[scrapy]

Flowery Field, Newton for Hyde, Godley, Hattersley, Broadbottom and Dinting are skipped by the first Manchester Piccadilly to Hadfield train weekdays, all other trains stop.

 

[bigmanaiq]

Alloa? Or is that cheating

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Alloa? Or is that cheating

So, which passenger train is it that doesn't ever call at Alloa?

 

[VT 390]

Anyone mentioned Stourbridge Junction yet? One XC each way per day. Kidderminster will be the same but I think everything else on the line has at least 2 skips each way (WMT skip some, Chiltern skip most - Droitwich has an additional two XCs that goes via Bromsgrove)

The Cross Country via Droitwich Spa also pass through Worcester Shrub Hill where all other passenger services stop.

 

[Farigiraf]

Only 1 train a day doesn't have the option to request a stop at Altnabreac, Scotscalder, Kinbrace, Culrain and Invershin - the 06:18 from Wick. Only seems to save about 5 minutes so I don't really see the point - other than maybe to prevent one particularly rowdy couple from arriving into Inverness before the officers have had their tea

 

[hexagon789]

Only 1 train a day doesn't have the option to request a stop at Altnabreac, Scotscalder, Kinbrace, Culrain and Invershin - the 06:18 from Wick. Only seems to save about 5 minutes so I don't really see the point - other than maybe to prevent one particularly rowdy couple from arriving into Inverness before the officers have had their tea

It used to save far more time when introduced (in 2006 IIRC?) but has been continually decelerated over the years.