Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[jontyasaurus]

Surprise surprise would’ve been 011…

Started short at Derby in the end, but at least it seems to be keeping to time!

 

[800001]

observations this evening at Merchant Park.

810017 liveried undergoing static testing.

810021 liveried undergoing static testing.

810022 having work done on doors and interiors (outside in yard) and has been for nearly 2 weeks, has too large extractors attached too it, see pictures attached.

810023 static testing in yard not yet liveried.

 

[Amos390]

observations this evening at Merchant Park.

810017 liveried undergoing static testing.

810021 liveried undergoing static testing.

810022 having work done on doors and interiors (outside in yard) and has been for nearly 2 weeks, has too large extractors attached too it, see pictures attached.

810023 static testing in yard not yet liveried.

Very nice, noticed an 810 (think it was 022) failed on testing the other night, and the day it came back a class 66 from GBRf ran back out of Merchant Park, you wouldn’t happen to know whether the 66 had to rescue the 810 would you, or has he 66 been there for a bit?

 

[800001]

Very nice, noticed an 810 (think it was 022) failed on testing the other night, and the day it came back a class 66 from GBRf ran back out of Merchant Park, you wouldn’t happen to know whether the 66 had to rescue the 810 would you, or has he 66 been there for a bit?

Highly doubt would be 022 as that's been undergoing work on the unit outside on the yard for nearly 2 weeks.

Not seen a 66 at Merchant Park for many months.

Possibly it was there to move a unit on delivery which was cancelled?

 

[Amos390]

Highly doubt would be 022 as that's been undergoing work on the unit outside on the yard for nearly 2 weeks.

Not seen a 66 at Merchant Park for many months.

Possibly it was there to move a unit on delivery which was cancelled?

Had a look, definitely was 022, this was the service it failed on: https://live.rail-record.co.uk/train/?c=K66627&d=2026-06-04 and the shed was allocated as 66693, which has been recently allocated onto the working in/out if Tyne Coal Terminal in Wednesday, so would be in the area overnight. This was the flow it was allocated onto when leaving Merchant Park, but cannot find a flow into Merchant Park for it: https://live.rail-record.co.uk/train.php/?c=80422&d=2026-06-04

 

[800001]

Had a look, definitely was 022, this was the service it failed on: https://live.rail-record.co.uk/train/?c=K66627&d=2026-06-04 and the shed was allocated as 66693, which has been recently allocated onto the working in/out if Tyne Coal Terminal in Wednesday, so would be in the area overnight. This was the flow it was allocated onto when leaving Merchant Park, but cannot find a flow into Merchant Park for it: https://live.rail-record.co.uk/train.php/?c=80422&d=2026-06-04

That's really strange for 022, as for the last 2 weeks it has been undergoing work outside in the yard at Merchant Park, with scaffolding structures placed adjacent to it, and over the 2 weeks the unit moves slightly to reposition doors next to scaffolding as per pictures attached.

 

[Amos390]

That's really strange for 022, as for the last 2 weeks it has been undergoing work outside in the yard at Merchant Park, with scaffolding structures placed adjacent to it, and over the 2 weeks the unit moves slightly to reposition doors next to scaffolding as per pictures attached.

Could well have been 020 then, and the Allox are wrong and were just copied off the initial service, principal still the same though, an 810 failed and a shed magically spawned into Merchant that same day

 

[800001]

Could well have been 020 then, and the Allox are wrong and were just copied off the initial service, principal still the same though, an 810 failed and a shed magically spawned into Merchant that same day

I'd hazard a guess at 020, as that should have been delivered to Derby last Tuesday.
And yes. Still isn't good when a unit newly built fails.

 

[Amos390]

I'd hazard a guess at 020, as that should have been delivered to Derby last Tuesday.
And yes. Still isn't good when a unit newly built fails.

Well hopefully it means that issues that would’ve just turned up on the mainline can be caught and rectified before they get put out (probably will still happen under EMR though…)

 

[810013]

No 810s in service today

Edit: Rail record seems to have a issue...

 

[800001]

No 810s in service today

Edit: Rail record seems to have a issue...

810011, 013, 015 and 019 all in service today from a very quick check on RTT.

 

[Amos390]

No 810s in service today

Edit: Rail record seems to have a issue...

Yes I think RR is undergoing maintenance of some sort I think, this note is in the members area

 

[Gordonman]

I'd hazard a guess at 020, as that should have been delivered to Derby last Tuesday.
And yes. Still isn't good when a unit newly built fails.

I would be surprised if 810020 or 810022 have carried out sufficient 'test' miles which will be the reason for the non delivery of the units so far.

Will the test miles on 810022 be reset to zero after its failure on Friday?

 

[800001]

I would be surprised if 810020 or 810022 have carried out sufficient 'test' miles which will be the reason for the non delivery of the units so far.

Will the test miles on 810022 be reset to zero after its failure on Friday?

We do not know if it was 022 that failed, as I wrote above it's been having work done on its doors for nearly 2 weeks with scaffolding up against it and extractor fans placed into the doors

If it was 022 then they are having to do a bit of work each evening and morning to remove the equipment .

 

[Merle Haggard]

810011 on 1F47 (1430 St Pancras - Sheffield) seems to have expired at Cricklewood ('problem with the train') - causing some congestion because only the slow lines are open. After about half an hour it ran forward to Kettering as 5F47, the empty stock classification suggesting its passengers were left at Cricklewood.
I wonder what fault would allow it to run as empty stock but not carrying passengers.

 

[DaveyJones]

810011 on 1F47 (1430 St Pancras - Sheffield) seems to have expired at Cricklewood ('problem with the train') - causing some congestion because only the slow lines are open. After about half an hour it ran forward to Kettering as 5F47, the empty stock classification suggesting its passengers were left at Cricklewood.
I wonder what fault would allow it to run as empty stock but not carrying passengers.

Most Cab Safety Systems and Interlocks (Door, Brakes, Traction)

Generally it's pretty easy to get a unit moving again, but not in a condition it would be safe to carry passengers

 

[Amos390]

Most Cab Safety Systems and Interlocks (Door, Brakes, Traction)

Or simply a train fault (like engine) that can be fixed (so it can move the the nearest depot) on-site but is deemed unfit to carry passengers

 

[Dave61]

810011 on 1F47 (1430 St Pancras - Sheffield) seems to have expired at Cricklewood ('problem with the train') - causing some congestion because only the slow lines are open. After about half an hour it ran forward to Kettering as 5F47, the empty stock classification suggesting its passengers were left at Cricklewood.
I wonder what fault would allow it to run as empty stock but not carrying passengers.

Wonder how the passengers got on? I guess a Thameslink to St Pancras and roll the dice again ? At least the next Sheffield train is a 10 coach Meridian (222013+222016)

 

[Amos390]

Wonder how the passengers got on? I guess a Thameslink to St Pancras and roll the dice again ? At least the next Sheffield train is a 10 coach Meridian (222013+222016)

Yeah or a 360 to Kettering and a intercity service onwards

 

[Merle Haggard]

Yeah or a 360 to Kettering and a intercity service onwards

The 360s don't stop at Cricklewood. My first hand experience of problems on EMR Inter City is that Special Stop Orders are not issued; on an occasion when one would certainly have been useful the form I saw being filled in turned out to be a Special Non Stop order.

 

[Amos390]

The 360s don't stop at Cricklewood. My first hand experience of problems on EMR Inter City is that Special Stop Orders are not issued; on an occasion when one would certainly have been useful the form I saw being filled in turned out to be a Special Non Stop order.

Oh that’s odd, I thought they would’ve stopped there, oh well.

 

[Trainman40083]

I think only the Luton trains stop there.

 

[liamf656]

Wonder how the passengers got on? I guess a Thameslink to St Pancras and roll the dice again ? At least the next Sheffield train is a 10 coach Meridian (222013+222016)

The following Nottingham service had a special stop order at Cricklewood to pick up the passengers

 

[1D54]

Which was probably packed on departure from STP but the Cricklewood passengers were more than happy just to get away again. Well done EMR for this when it would have been easier to advise people to get alternative services north.. Were the Corby electrics even out today what with EMR Inter City trains going via Manton?

 

[liamf656]

Which was probably packed on departure from STP but the Cricklewood passengers were more than happy just to get away again. Well done EMR for this when it would have been easier to advise people to get alternative services north.. Were the Corby electrics even out today what with EMR Inter City trains going via Manton?

The Corby services get curtailed at Wellingborough when the Intercities divert via Corby

 

[Amos390]

810015 failed today on 1F04, returning to Etches (5Z04), however will be unit swapped at Derby by 810016, which I suppose is a plus, still 4 810s out

 

[Charlie978]

On the 17:03 from London to Sheffield with 810016. Cancelled at Leicester due to drivers keys stuck in door.

 

[Pippy1505]

We do not know if it was 022 that failed, as I wrote above it's been having work done on its doors for nearly 2 weeks with scaffolding up against it and extractor fans placed into the doors

If it was 022 then they are having to do a bit of work each evening and morning to remove the equipment .

it was 020 that failed

 

[Waverleystu]

I don’t work in the industry but I’m genuinely interested to know if the amount of failures and issues with the class 810s are common with new stock especially Hitachi? I thought Hitachi were the elite of the industry having built JR Shinkansen etc. I remember the problems with the Scotrail Hitachi 385s and the window fiasco!

 

[800001]

it was 020 that failed

Thank you for confirming.