Bletchleyite
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Though I don't know what Lumo think of GBR nicking their blue...
"That ticket is for the blue train"...oh!
"That ticket is for the blue train"...oh!
Regional Express as applied to new 158s was the best I think. Perfect for that new fleet, very smart.Yet Regional Railways suited everything from a Pacer to a Class 37 in my view. Possibly the best livery of all time?
The advertising ones would be. Also, some of the individual liveries on the 91s.Which liveries? I can't think of a single livery that is entirely vinyl-based. Avanti comes the closest with vinyls on the white-based livery. Which is not in the least surprising as vinyl, unlike paint, doesn't provide corrosion protection.
The livery looks ok & not as bad as on the initial picture.
Perhaps for the centre carriages they should have done like the Sheffield Supertram’s have which is the livery on the ends & just the main colour block running through the middle
Came across the Hornby model of the new livery which looks great I think. Also makes a good case for the red arrow/flag being only on the front, keep the rest of the carriages just plain blue imo.
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From World of Railways https://www.world-of-railways.co.uk...irst-model-in-great-british-railways-branding
It was GBR | Southwestern a few months ago. Idk if they have commited to it thoThinking about it, SWR's probably will be:
"Great British Railways | SWR"
As SWR's full name together with GBR's would be too long & a mouthful

A historic moment for Britain’s railway was marked today (21 May 2026), as the first Great British Railways (GBR) branded train was unveiled in Brighton.
Whether it’s building sandcastles, fish and chips on the pier or a staycation, rail travellers to the south and southeast this long weekend can catch a glimpse of the striking new red, white and blue livery, now operating on the tracks.
The first GBR-branded train, a Class 387 operated by Southern, has been unveiled, to mark Britain’s largest train operator Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR) joining the growing publicly owned network next Sunday (31 May 2026) – just in time for summer. It also comes ahead of the first anniversary of South Western Railway entering public ownership, kick starting the end of almost 30 years of fragmentation and waste under privatisation.
This transfer represents a landmark moment in the journey to public ownership and will mean around 8 in 10 passenger rail journeys that Great British Railways will ultimately be responsible for will be taking place on publicly owned services. That means when millions of passengers are travelling this summer for holidays, days out or to visit friends and family, they’ll be travelling on a railway with their interests at heart.
Passengers across Britain are already experiencing the benefits of public ownership, with publicly owned Department for Transport (DfT) train operators performing better on punctuality and cancellations on average than those yet to come under DfT Operator Limited (DFTO) ownership. They’re also benefiting from the first freeze in rail fares in 3 decades, saving passengers hundreds of pounds off their season tickets.
Passengers up and down the country will soon begin to see the fresh, unmistakably British design popping up at stations, on staff uniforms and on trains. Rolled out gradually to ensure value for taxpayers’ money, the brand is a clear signal of the government’s commitment to bringing the railway together under one publicly owned identity – putting passengers and the public interest firmly in the driving seat.
Transport Secretary, Heidi Alexander, said:
The GBR brand will also feature on the incoming GBR ticketing app – a one‑stop shop where passengers can check train times, buy tickets at the best prices with no booking fees, and book Passenger Assist.The unveiling of the first GBR-branded train in Brighton today makes the future of Britain’s railways a reality.
It represents all of the work being done by staff up and down the country to fundamentally reform our railway.
This isn’t just a paint job – it’s an important step towards building a more joined‑up, publicly owned railway that puts passengers first, delivers better services and leaves the frustrations and fragmentation of the past behind.
It’s all part of making rail travel smoother, simpler and easier to navigate under GBR, whether travelling for work, weekends away or spur-of-the-moment summer holidays.
GBR will maintain and improve the railways, being accountable to passengers, freight customers and taxpayers. Fares and ticketing will be brought into the 21st century, a strengthened passenger watchdog will investigate poor service and demand improvement, and GBR will be empowered to build a railway that supports the government’s missions to drive economic growth and opportunity by unlocking jobs and housing.
John Whitehurst, Chief Operating Officer for GTR, said:
VisitBritain CEO, Patricia Yates, said:We’re very pleased to be the first train operator to have a Great British Railways-branded train on our network, and I’m proud of how hard colleagues have worked to get us here.
It’s a significant milestone for everyone at GTR, which reflects our readiness for change and the improvements we’ve already been delivering for customers.
As we move closer to our transition to public ownership on 31 May, our priorities remain providing safe and reliable services every day, with customers, colleagues and communities at the heart of everything we do.
As the government steams ahead with its bold rail reforms, passengers across Britain are already experiencing a better railway with frozen rail fares for the first time in three decades and many other benefits:Travelling by rail opens up iconic locations as well as less explored destinations, with stunning scenery along the way. The ease and convenience of rail travel to access our outstanding attractions and destinations, in a relaxing and environmentally friendly way, also broadens travel itineraries, encouraging visitors to travel further and stay longer.
An efficient public transport system that offers visitors choice, flexibility, connectivity and great customer service is integral to this, with rail playing a leading role.
From 31 May, Thameslink, Great Northern, Southern and Gatwick Express services will enter public ownership. GTR joins West Midlands Trains, Greater Anglia, c2c, Northern, TransPennine Express, Southeastern, LNER and South Western, which are currently managed by DfT Operator Limited (DFTO).
- More services for passengers: 76,000 seats per week in the December timetable uplift, with 60,000 coming on LNER services on the East Coast Main Line, and over a million passenger journeys on Northern’s new Northumberland Line.
- Strong performance: Publicly owned c2c and Greater Anglia continue to be top performing operators for punctuality and reliability, with over 90% of trains arriving within 3 minutes of their scheduled time and under 2% cancellations.
- Better onboard experience: Since entering public ownership, SWR has more than quadrupled the number of new ‘Arterio’ trains in service. These new trains are quicker and have more space on board.
- Greater flexibility: Passengers can travel with greater confidence knowing that if their train is cancelled, they can use another publicly owned service two hours either side of their train to get to their destination at no extra cost.
Chiltern Railways’ services will be next to transfer on 20 September 2026, followed by Great Western Railway on 13 December 2026, marking another significant step in the government’s plans to bring services into public ownership. The full public ownership programme is expected to be completed by the end of 2027.
It does at least appear to have a yellow band to indicate first class. Assuming that's what that is supposed to be.Here we go…
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Full steam ahead for Great British Railways as first branded train unveiled
First Great British Railways‑branded train unveiled as services move into public ownership, with new branding rolling out across England’s rail network.www.gov.uk
Image shows a 387 in GBR branded red white and blue
Just delete the red stuff on the intermediate coaches. And the name. We don't need reminding on every coach in large lettering what the name of the operator is.
This is a perfect example of why ’we’ (as in the travelling public) need the operator named on every coach.Though I don't know what Lumo think of GBR nicking their blue...
"That ticket is for the blue train"...oh!
I would assume so - seeing as it's using a Zulu headcode. If it were to be, say, simply a unit swap on the East Coastway then it would probably be 5U or 5C. It's also STP, not VSTP, so seems to have been planned for a few days.Would it be safe to assume this is 387172?: gets to Brighton from Lovers Walk at 1102, next movement on that platform is exactly two hours later back to Lovers Walk: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:X91097/2026-05-21/detailed https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:X91096/2026-05-21/detailed
Now allocated on RTT as 172Would it be safe to assume this is 387172?: gets to Brighton from Lovers Walk at 1102, next movement on that platform is exactly two hours later back to Lovers Walk: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:X91097/2026-05-21/detailed https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:X91096/2026-05-21/detailed
Plenty of current liveries don't need the name on every coach now so I don't why it's needed in the future. If anyone thinks that your average passenger takes any notice of such things that would be a bit naive.This is a perfect example of why ’we’ (as in the travelling public) need the operator named on every coach.
Plenty of current liveries don't need the name on every coach now so I don't why it's needed in the future. If anyone thinks that your average passenger takes any notice of such things that would be a bit naive.
Southern doesn't have its small and subtle logo on the intermediate coaches on its trains yet there are operator-specific fares between it and Thameslink all the way between London and Brighton. Indeed, some "Southern-only" tickets are valid on trains which are bright red, and say Gatwick Express on the side.As long as there are operator specific fares it needs to be there and pretty clear. Once they're all gone it doesn't.
Passengers take no notice of what colour a train is or what it says on the side
Indeed there are articles about, if you search for them, complaining about the confusing use of Southern stock on Gatwick Express and vice versa for this very reason.I simply do not believe that statement to be correct. I have very often heard stuff like "you need the green train for that ticket".
I agree, think its harshly tarnished but people seem to remember the bad things about it.Why is BR tarnished? No one under the age of about 40 will have much if any memory of it anyway. Generally BR made the best of what they had available to them.
“British Railways” sounds a lot snappier than GBR.
The dutch used to... but now they just have various ways of displaying yellow, blue and white.Is there any european country that has a) one livery for all trains, and b) has a livery consisting so much of their flag. This seems to be so over done and in your face that I just don't understand it
That’s definitely been the case. Back in the days of SWT I was waiting at Havant station when a Waterloo train (2 x Class 450) rolled in. A woman who had obviously missed the announcement or hadn’t looked at the display hastily asked another passenger ‘is this the Worthing train?’ to which the other passenger replied ‘no, you need a green train, the blue ones go to London’.I simply do not believe that statement to be correct. I have very often heard stuff like "you need the green train for that ticket".
Or a white one if you’re luckyThat’s definitely been the case. Back in the days of SWT I was waiting at Havant station when a Waterloo train (2 x Class 450) rolled in. A woman who had obviously missed the announcement or hadn’t looked at the display hastily asked another passenger ‘is this the Worthing train?’ to which the other passenger replied ‘no, you need a green train, the blue ones go to London’.
Or a red one if you are really unlucky lol.....Or a white one if you’re lucky![]()
Not from HavantOr a red one if you are really unlucky lol.....