zwk500
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I wonder how that twitter account got hold of that video.https://fixvx.com/train_planehub/status/2052655549817164051?s=46
A video I found about the Bourne End dewirement, looks brutal.
I wonder how that twitter account got hold of that video.https://fixvx.com/train_planehub/status/2052655549817164051?s=46
A video I found about the Bourne End dewirement, looks brutal.
And where is the pan cam footage from the train in front?I wonder how that twitter account got hold of that video.
Thats absolutely savage!https://fixvx.com/train_planehub/status/2052655549817164051?s=46
A video I found about the Bourne End dewirement, looks brutal. Happened at a neutral section interestingly, luckily Bourne End is the midpoint between Bushey and Leighton Buzzard and not a feeder station (anymore). If neutral sections are hotspots for OLE failures that can be especially disruptive if it happens at a feeder station.
I would say it hasn't been particularly well controlled, I was shown that video yesterdayI wonder how that twitter account got hold of that video.
And that's just quite a poor reflection on some people working on the railway, I'm afraid.I would say it hasn't been particularly well controlled, I was shown that video yesterday![]()
The WCML wouldn't be Europe's busiest trunk railway if it was down to poor maintenance... we'd be having incidents like this every day!As expected the comments on X below the video are awash with suggestions of poor maintenance and it all being the fault of privatisation.
Thats absolutely savage!
The WCML wouldn't be Europe's busiest trunk railway if it was down to poor maintenance... we'd be having incidents like this every day!
The past few weeks haven't been great overall to be fair. The ECML collapsed completely for over 2 days because of one trespasser (correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I saw), I think the wires went down on the ECML not too long ago as well and there were the North London power failures. The ECML is continually suffering from delays further north, the timetable is basically broken for the Cambridge line... it's just that with the WCML this sort of stuff all gets clumped up into large 'spots' of disruption when the infrastructure fails.the WCML collapsing isn't an uncommon occurrence, we've gone through phases where it happened almost weekly for one reason or another
The past few weeks haven't been great overall to be fair. The ECML collapsed completely for over 2 days because of one trespasser (correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I saw), I think the wires went down on the ECML not too long ago as well and there were the North London power failures. The ECML is continually suffering from delays further north, the timetable is basically broken for the Cambridge line... it's just that with the WCML this sort of stuff all gets clumped up into large 'spots' of disruption when the infrastructure fails.
The WCML's reliability is certainly... subpar, for what should be a flagship intercity route. But unfortunately this is what you get when you cram everything you possibly can onto four tracks. At least the WCML's OHLE wasn't done on the cheap unlike the ECML, otherwise this sort of thing would've been an almost weekly occurrence!
Ultimately this is all just more reason to get HS2 built. HS2 will by nature be the most reliable north-south intercity route and this knock-on regular disruption will basically disappear... if and when we get that up and running.
And LNWR retweeted it to show customers what is causing the issues todayI would say it hasn't been particularly well controlled, I was shown that video yesterday![]()
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They have carried out significant repairs overnight and the line is open, albeit with an ESR - today’s disruption is due to a train hitting a ‘trolley’ and needed rescuing.Well it's Saturday AM so almost 48 hours since the dewirement on what is claimed to be a key mainline route and still the Infrastructure Owner hasn't repaired it ..
Knock off at least 12 hours since initial dewirement, several trains including the incident train needed moving.Well it's Saturday AM so almost 48 hours since the dewirement on what is claimed to be a key mainline route and still the Infrastructure Owner hasn't repaired it ..
Please don't tell me the trolley was one used during the repairs to the wires?They have carried out significant repairs overnight and the line is open, albeit with an ESR - today’s disruption is due to a train hitting a ‘trolley’ and needed rescuing.
I believe it hit it at Primrose Hill, so don’t believe so. Although that was my first thought when I read the messages this morning.Please don't tell me the trolley was one used during the repairs to the wires?
accelleration of which component in which direction?When PANDAS detects an excessive acceleration event an alert is automatically triggered
Not a trolley on the train (again) ..Sounds like another investigation needed by RAIB ..Please don't tell me the trolley was one used during the repairs to the wires?
I assumed it was a shopping trolley?Not a trolley on the train (again) ..Sounds like another investigation needed by RAIB ..
Seems the Infrastructure Owner never comprehends "Lessons Learnt" are there to prevent reoccurrence.
Kilburn area, and if reports are true it was a trolley left on the track by NR, serious questions should be asked.I believe it hit it at Primrose Hill, so don’t believe so. Although that was my first thought when I read the messages this morning.
Disruption has been severe, as the train was full of train crew commuting to Euston.
Depends how it was positioned, I would have though? I believe both rails have to be in contact with something for it to detect it(?)But surely a trolley on the track would occupy track circuit and prevent a route being cleared?
Knock off at least 12 hours since initial dewirement, several trains including the incident train needed moving.
They don't start repairing the minute it Happens!
Not a trolley on the train (again) ..Sounds like another investigation needed by RAIB ..
Seems the Infrastructure Owner never comprehends "Lessons Learnt" are there to prevent reoccurrence.
How can you start repairs when there are several stranded trains on that section of line including the failed train which needs electricity to move?It's a core mainline, often quoted on here as one of the busiest in Europe, commencing work 12 hours after the incident, if I'm understanding your post correctly is a totally unacceptable timescale, it happens frequently enough that there should be plans in place to start repairs within a couple of hours.
When are lessons ever learnt?
It's just a soundbite rolled out for the media every time our highly efficient and competent infrastructure owner drops the ball...
How can you start repairs when there are several stranded trains on that section of line including the failed train which needs electricity to move?
Passengers need removing from the train, before that the damaged wires need making safe to enable to passengers to be removed.
You need to move the stranded train most likely with a locomotive due to know power.
That all takes time.
You then need to get the relevant materials/compinents, relevant staff etc to start the repair.
Can that repair be undertaken safely while adjacent lines are open? (I don't know).