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I'm seeing lots of stuff here and elsewhere about dozy, low information, semi-racist Reform voters.

It would be good for the "respectable" parties to understand what Reform voters are concerned about and consider whether there are appropriate policy responses.

It's more that some Reform votes who have either a) switched from other parties, or b) rarely or have never voted are angry/annoyed/disillusioned and want to see some change.

That in itself is not necessarily a problem, however many of the issues facing the country or local authorities are structural, demographic or long-term economic issues with complex reasons and will need collaboration, cooperation and a change in focus to resolve. Not impossible, but it will require a fair amount of hard work.

Reform however want to blame pretty much everything vaguely on immigration or Labour and Tories (who are by no means not at fault), but its the reduction of the true issues into just saying things are broken. But I have yet to see any realistic proposals on how they will run a council and solve these issues. But they have best articulated an argument - whatever merits it has - that resonantes well amongst ex-Labour and Tory strongholds. I also wonder how many of these candidates (now councillors) are prepared for the scale of the challenge they may have ahead of them.

It is clear where there have been local Labour and Tory councillors who are actually active, embedded and presumably well respected and communicative with their residents they have held against the tide.

Unfortunately I feel like we may be in a cycle of Reform councillors getting elected and having to be challenged by decent opposition parties - depending on where you are this may be a while - before it shifts again and their lack of plans become evident.

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In the polls (pollcheck) it has Greens taking Lewisham. Bear in mind Labour held all 54 seats previously.

Pollcheck is broadly garbage (provable as elections have come through tonight). Fun to look at, and it might have a general idea on things but there is no way that a national site can predict individual wards and any "ground war" in such fine detail.
 
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It's more that some Reform votes who have either a) switched from other parties, or b) rarely or have never voted are angry/annoyed/disillusioned and want to see some change.

That in itself is not necessarily a problem, however many of the issues facing the country or local authorities are structural, demographic or long-term economic issues with complex reasons and will need collaboration, cooperation and a change in focus to resolve. Not impossible, but it will require a fair amount of hard work.
That's fair. But I feel like the "major" parties haven't really tried to get to grips with that anger/annoyance/disiullusionment and what it might mean for policy making

I agree that the problems are not easy to solve. It doesn't help that no politician seems willing to say as much and/or articulate the implications of hard policy choices. (You can blame the voters, of course, and that may even be fair but someone has to tackle the insitutionalised "cakeism" in the UK's politics.)
 

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Pollcheck is broadly garbage (provable as elections have come through tonight). Fun to look at, and it might have a general idea on things but there is no way that a national site can predict individual wards and any "ground war" in such fine detail.
It's not been bad on the local council results I've looked at.
 

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The Welsh parliament is not far off finishing counting and with 12 seats left, Plaid have 37, Reform 30, Labour 8, Tory 6, Green 2, Lib Dem 1.

If Plaid win 4-5 of the remaining 12, broadly in line with how they've performed so far, Plaid and Labour could easily govern together, especially if Labour win 1 more. Reform could get another 4-5, with maybe 1 more Tory seat, but there almost certainly isn't a route for Reform to run Wales in some form from these results.
 

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The Welsh parliament is not far off finishing counting and with 12 seats left, Plaid have 37, Reform 30, Labour 8, Tory 6, Green 2, Lib Dem 1.

If Plaid win 4-5 of the remaining 12, broadly in line with how they've performed so far, Plaid and Labour could easily govern together, especially if Labour win 1 more. Reform could get another 4-5, with maybe 1 more Tory seat, but there almost certainly isn't a route for Reform to run Wales in some form from these results.
Plaid are now guaranteed largest party with only 6 seats left to declare and reform trailing 7 seats behind.
As it stands, Plaid have 39, Reform 32, Labour 9, Tory 7, Green 2 and Lib Dem 1.
 

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I'm seeing lots of stuff here and elsewhere about dozy, low information, semi-racist Reform voters.

It would be good for the "respectable" parties to understand what Reform voters are concerned about and consider whether there are appropriate policy responses.

(Arguably Hillary Clinton's contemptuous attitude to MAGA-type voters was a strong factor in Trump Round 1 and we know what that led to...)
Absolutely. But any attempt to out-Reform Reform is equally silly. Clinton wouldn't have beaten Trump if she'd also promised to kick out immigrants, build a wall, make America great again, etc.
 

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It’s far too easy to just dismiss Reform voters as all racists or thickos like some have done in this thread considering how many votes they are getting

Where I am in Yorkshire, Reform have won Wakefield, on track to win Barnsley, have lost control of Leeds, and are on track to lose control of Bradford, Calderdale and Kirklees

Some of these places like Barnsley are Labour through and through, with voters voting red for generations
 
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Hampshire is split Tories 27/LD 26/Reform 20/Labour 1/Greens 1/Others 2. (Don't have the percentages yet). It will be interesting to see who does a deal with who to form a majority - or will the Tories carry on as a minority? That might be the kind of question that arises at national level in three years' time.

It really does not matter. Like all remaining county councils and many non-metropolitan districts and unitaries it is being reorganised and will cease to exist on 1 April 2028. The councillors just elected to these councils will not be able to do anything interesting. Their only job will be to close down the council. Hampshire County Council has the additional problem of being on course for a Section 114 notice next year so the councillors just elected will not even in reality be able to set a budget. It will be set for them by the Government.
 

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Wonder what Reform's success means for Essex and its future.

Essex county council is due to be split into five new councils from 2028, this decision could be challenged by Reform. Also there is some discontent in the London borough of Havering (was in Essex until 1965) with Mayor Khan, which Reform promised some sort of referendum to put Havering back into Essex. So now Reform has won control of both Havering council & Essex county council.
 

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I'm seeing lots of stuff here and elsewhere about dozy, low information, semi-racist Reform voters.
Having watched BBC 6pm news, they interviewed a few people in town centres, what I found odd was those in the north said voted reform because Labour not looking after working class.

But when they interviewed people south of about Birmingham, not one person mentioned class.

What is it that northerners still hang on to the old class system, but southerners never mention it, and those interviewed on South Today (regional segment after national news) seemed more concerned about lack of experience of new councillors
 
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Essex county council is due to be split into five new councils from 2028, this decision could be challenged by Reform. Also there is some discontent in the London borough of Havering (was in Essex until 1965) with Mayor Khan, which Reform promised some sort of referendum to put Havering back into Essex. So now Reform has won control of both Havering council & Essex county council.

Havering is a London Borough as a result of the London Government Act 1963. This can only be changed by Parliament.

The structure of local government and local government reorganisation in England is decided by Parliament.
 

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1. The more extreme end of the trans rights agenda (I'm not thinking of toilets) has damaged the interests of women and led to some chindren having life altering medical treatment which may not have been in their long-term interests
2. The increases to the minimum wage and employer's national insurance in the last budget have made it harder for young people to find work, just as AI introduces head-winds to the labour market
3. A failure to set out clear limits to multiculturism. For example, spelling out the FGM or Sharia Courts are not acceptable in the UK
4. Largely uncontrolled immigration leading to strain on housing costs and public services (a left wing policy, albeit one that the Conservatives also followed)
5. A failure to consider the impact of putting people on long-term sickness benefits who could be encouraged back to work - this isn't just about cost: work is a social good and (on average) good for mental health
1. How has additional rights for trans people damaged women’s rights? Please don’t mention competitive sport as that doesn’t impact anyone.

2. A third of people on benefits are in paid work (see also 5). Low paid work that isn’t enough to live on isn’t in anyone’s interests either. The employers complaining about minimum wage are the same employers who are paying their CEO ten million quid a year (yes you, Tesco). AI is a bubble.

3. FGM is illegal.

3 part two: Are sharia courts, which where they exist (in small numbers) decide on religious matters specific to that religion, any different to the Church of England Synod? Are they more or less acceptable than the Jewish community having a private security service and having a private ambulance service? Or the Catholics having their own school system? Why?

4. What strain? As above, the population in Reform voting areas are overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly born in the UK. In Clacton, Farage’s town, it is 95% and 94% respectively, in Bishop Auckland it is 98% and 97%. If someone in Bishop Auckland can’t get a GP appointment it isn’t because of mass immigration.

5. See 3. It is an issue, but the answer- more funding and better access to specialist support services- isn’t on the Reform agenda.

One final observation on trans issues. In my opinion, people can’t really be openly homophobic any more, so transphobia is the proxy for subverted homophobia. Those anti-trans gay people are, in my opinion, in for a rude awakening.

My opinion is that the obsession with immigration comes from a similar position- people can’t be openly racist, so they focus on migration as a proxy for that racism. There is no logical reason why people obsess over the small boat arrivals, who total about 45,000 people a year.

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It’s far too easy to just dismiss Reform voters as all racists or thickos like some have done in this thread considering how many votes they are getting
I don’t dismiss them, in a democracy one person gets one vote, they’re entitled to their opinion and their vote just as much as I am.

My view, having grown up in these sorts of towns and having worked and lived in these sorts of towns, is that many of the people voting Reform are thick and/or racist. I make no apology for holding this opinion. But it is just my opinion; I’m sure they equally think I’m some wet lefty liberal commie who doesn’t understand the real world.

Someone else on this thread referred to “base instincts” not being far under the surface in the general population and I think that observation was bang on the money. The obsession with trans people and the obsession with the small boats is, in my opinion, nothing more than the ‘acceptable’ proxy for those base instincts.

But this is a real issue because, ultimately, there aren’t any policy levers which will help persuade someone who is racist to not be racist anymore. And however much you tighten up migration laws it’ll never be enough because, ultimately, they simply don’t want any non-white people to live here.
 
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That's fair. But I feel like the "major" parties haven't really tried to get to grips with that anger/annoyance/disiullusionment and what it might mean for policy making

Sometimes its hard to counter though when people are angry at something which they believe (or have been told) that the cause is X and that is simply wrong and being against X is completely contrary to the party's values.

For example I regularly see commentary about new housing being opposed because "oh we all know who that is going to, don't we?" or "great more accomodation for the boat people, not our homeless" which is just simply wrong and misinformation. How do you counter that without descending to that level?
 

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Plaid are now guaranteed largest party with only 6 seats left to declare and reform trailing 7 seats behind.
As it stands, Plaid have 39, Reform 32, Labour 9, Tory 7, Green 2 and Lib Dem 1.
And now finished with Plaid 43, Reform 34, and the rest as above. Assuming Labour will settle for being junior partner in coalition with Plaid, then that will be the only viable coalition.
 

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Wonder what Reform's success means for Essex and its future.

Essex county council is due to be split into five new councils from 2028, this decision could be challenged by Reform. Also there is some discontent in the London borough of Havering (was in Essex until 1965) with Mayor Khan, which Reform promised some sort of referendum to put Havering back into Essex. So now Reform has won control of both Havering council & Essex county council.

Not really. The decision was made by the Secretary of State.

I seriously doubt Reform have got any idea on what their perfect form of local government organisation should be, or have given it any real thought, as opposed to using it as a campaign point.
 

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But this is a real issue because, ultimately, there aren’t any policy levers which will help persuade someone who is racist to not be racist anymore. And however much you tighten up migration laws it’ll never be enough because, ultimately, they simply don’t want any non-white people to live here.

I think it is a little more nuanced than this - 'any non-white people' is hyperbole - concentrated quantities of white Eastern Europeans are quite some issue too.

This is not a problem unique to the UK, or unique to any particular colour/culture either.
 

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And now finished with Plaid 43, Reform 34, and the rest as above. Assuming Labour will settle for being junior partner in coalition with Plaid, then that will be the only viable coalition.

I actually imagine Plaid will go into minority government.

Their main opposition is Reform who everyone will be reticent to work with. Everyone else is tiny in comparison. Labour needs time in opposition and it would be unhealthy for them to go into coalition with Plaid.

They can get support from Labour/ the Greens when needed to pass legislation/ budgets.



Though what a devastating result for Labour. 9 seats is minor party level. The real risk long term is what happened in Scotland with the rise of the SNP happens in Wales and Plaid dislodges Labour to be the left wing party.
 

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I was stunned by our results in Wigan but then I paused to pick my jaw up off the floor and wasn't surprised.

It is very simple to repeat the mantra and campaign on it - 'Starmer out' and 'Stop the boats' - but I have no idea what Reform will do in Wigan tomorrow and the days after. Fortunately we still have 42 Labour councillors whilst these new councillors get inducted into their roles.

I'm not deaf to the problems in our area: living paycheck to paycheck with little to spare at the end of the month, an increase in Organised Crime with seemingly little police responses, little investment in jobs and healthcare delays.

I voted Liberal as they have specifically mentioned social care as opposed to the generic line 'fund the NHS'.

I will savour the mental gymnastics the Reform councillors will need to perform to appease the local NIMBYs and the Astley Warehouse Group when the Reform literature specifically says (just like millions voted for Labour to do) that they will be pro-business and in favour of ramping up house building. On social media, Reform have been tapping into these NIMBY groups successfully.
 

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I actually imagine Plaid will go into minority government.

Their main opposition is Reform who everyone will be reticent to work with. Everyone else is tiny in comparison. Labour needs time in opposition and it would be unhealthy for them to go into coalition with Plaid.

They can get support from Labour/ the Greens when needed to pass legislation/ budgets.
Fair points, also I wouldn't be surprised if Reform UK are so disorganised quite a few of their members don't turn up when needed and thus Plaid could have an effective majority. It's happened with councils they won last year, while they won't be in government here, Welsh Senedd members will have a higher profile than councillors, making any problem behaviour more likely to get reported.
 

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4. Largely uncontrolled immigration leading to strain on housing costs and public services (a left wing policy, albeit one that the Conservatives also followed)

Sometimes it's hard to understand the impact of things when the numbers are measured at a national level.

So let's look at the impact on a town of 10,000 people (2026).

In 1981 this town would have had a population of 8,043.

Now just over 1/3 of that is down to general population growth (705) vs immigration (1,252), so immigration is clearly a factor.

However, the average household sizes has reduced from 2.7 to 2.35.

When we look at this (and assuming that immigrants occupancy of homes is the same as the native population - spoiler due to the aging native population is likely that this would actually be lower, but we'll leave it at it is to be robust)

The change in housing requirements are:
2,968 homes in 1981
4,255 homes in 2026

1,287 new homes needed
Of which
533 due to immigration
754 due to other population growth

That is the extra need for housing, however, in terms of actual delivered there's a shortfall of 167 homes.

Hang on you may say, but that's the wrong way around, you said earlier most of the population growth is due to immigration.

Yes, I did, but even if the town had stayed at circa 8,000 people there would have needed to have been nearly 500 new homes built solely for the change in household sizes.

Ome big reason for that is the aging population, as for some reason those over 65 tend tohave fewer children living with them and so all those 1 and 2 people households means there's a greater need for more housing.

Also, it's worth noting that unlike a younger couple who would struggle to be able to afford a "family home" and so are quite likely to live in a smaller property, this is less of a thing for those over 65 (yes, there's plenty who do, but there's still a lot who are in larger properties and typically in larger percentage than younger people).

With that background, let's look at what the government is getting with the target of 1.5 million new homes, as would mean that town by the end of this parliament would have built 138 new homes vs the 167 shortfall.

Great you think only 31 homes short. Only that's not the case as the town would likely get bigger and it's likely the household size will have shrunk further meaning some more demand. On current trends the amount of shortfall reduced could be as low as 6.

Therefore, the impact on housing need is complex, however, whilst a significant factor immigration is only one factor and a lot of house building is linked to migration and whilst the town wood have been smaller it's likely that the cost of building works (including general maintenance for boilers and the like) would be higher. Oh, and there would still have been a shortfall of 12 for every 100 it needs vs 13 for every 100 it needs under the current actual growth (so price pressure would be similar even if construction costs didn't alter).

Bottom line, migration is a factor, but without it things may not actually be better.

This would be highlighted by the size of the primary school(s).

In 1981 it would (I'm assuming 1 school, but could have easily been 2) have had a roll of 901 kids (2.7 classes per year group) with all that growth seen that school must be huge now, right, easily over 1,000?

Well, in a word, no. It would have peaked at 948 (2.9 classes per year group) in 2018 and would likely have fallen to 780 in 2026 (2.36 classes per year group) and wound likely be already implementing significant cost savings.

That's with current growth, with net zero immigration the peak would have hit in 1989 (905), however in 2026 the number would be around 520 (1.6 classes per year group), if the town had 2 schools in the 1980's chances are that's only one in 2026.
 

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Fair points, also I wouldn't be surprised if Reform UK are so disorganised quite a few of their members don't turn up when needed and thus Plaid could have an effective majority. It's happened with councils they won last year, while they won't be in government here, Welsh Senedd members will have a higher profile than councillors, making any problem behaviour more likely to get reported.

Undoubtedly that might happen.

The Reform Wales selection were relatively rushed, and my feeling (less of a feeling and more reality based on who was selected) is they were dominated by an ex-Tory clique. That might come back and bite Reform on the rear in the coming year or two.

But you can't rely on that.
 

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Sometimes it's hard to understand the impact of things when the numbers are measured at a national level.

So let's look at the impact on a town of 10,000 people (2026).

Interesting analysis. I suppose it doesn't take demographic churn though; i.e are people having children / raising families / moving out and moving to the same places they traditionally did. Primary schools in London are starting to close down for instance.
 
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Interesting analysis. I suppose it doesn't take demographic churn though (i.e are people having children / raising families / moving out) and moving to the same places they traditionally did. Primary schools in London are starting to close down for instance.
Sounds like a great opportunity for the new Camden Council to expand an Underground station ;)
 

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Interesting analysis. I suppose it doesn't take demographic churn though; i.e are people having children / raising families / moving out and moving to the same places they traditionally did. Primary schools in London are starting to close down for instance.

Indeed, London has been impacted more than other areas, but the local primary school (about an hour from London) is changing head teacher and deputy head and reducing head count, so no more class specific TA's in every classroom) if there's no house building in the next few years there might even be teacher head count reduction (with TA's covering some lessons and/or classes sizes of just over 30).
 

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Wonder why a few London boroughs have still not managed to declare results yet. Maybe very close and recounts.

Do they not continue counting until a result, or is it more a case of stop for the day and continue tomorrow

Croydon, Lambeth, Lewisham, Tower Hamlets

Bradford hasn't finished counting either
 

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Just picking up from the post yesterday (by someonelocal to there), to confirm that Hastings is now controlled by the Green Party with 19 vs 13 for others.

Whilst Labour lost 10 and Reform gained 6, I'd suspect most of those 6 for Reform were more likely to be from the 4 Tories lost with many shifting to Green from Labour.


Hastings council results
Counting complete. After 17 of 17 seats declared.
Change since 2022

Green
Councillors elected in 2026 Total 10
Councillors elected in 2026 Change +7
Councillors overall Total 19

Reform UK
Councillors elected in 2026 Total 6
Councillors elected in 2026 Change +6
Councillors overall Total 6

Labour
Councillors elected in 2026 Total 0
Councillors elected in 2026 Change -10
Councillors overall Total 4

Conservative
Councillors elected in 2026 Total 0
Councillors elected in 2026 Change -4
Councillors overall Total 2

Independents and other
Councillors elected in 2026 Total 1
Councillors elected in 2026 Change +1
Councillors overall Total 1

Change since 2022
 

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I think it is a little more nuanced than this - 'any non-white people' is hyperbole - concentrated quantities of white Eastern Europeans are quite some issue too.

This is not a problem unique to the UK, or unique to any particular colour/culture either.
Agree. For many people the issue is about the number coming here, and (for some towns) the speed of increased numbers arriving - too many, too fast.

The boat issue will remain a high level topic as long as people are entering this country illegally, en mass, when there are legal routes that any/everyone should take, which can be better controlled.
 

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The boat issue will remain a high level topic as long as people are entering this country illegally, en mass, when there are legal routes that any/everyone should take, which can be better controlled.

Which legal routes are available for those fleeing (say) Gaza and they don't already have family in the UK?

If Gaza isn't a bad enough situation for someone to fear for their life, then I think that the UK might need to learn a bit more compassion.
 

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Seeking to blame Lab, Lib or even Con is misplaced though. They should be blaming Trump, Putin and Netanyahu, plus Covid and possibly the over-extended lockdowns.
I disagree, they might be the causes of the woes of the last five years. But in many Reform-inclined areas, this goes back a lot further, it's deindustrialisation without a credible regeneration plan, it's choosing to have expensive PFI deals for new infrastructure in the late 90's/2000's. It's the legacy of austerity and then half a decade of uncertainty over Brexit. It's the fact that it feels like half our country is owned by venture capitalists trying to extract as much money of possible out of everyone.

The areas the support Reform are mostly those that have been in a decline for a long time, and Labour and the Conservatives had the ability to rebuild, invest, and get the country firing on all cylinders. Instead, they chose to leave things to the supposed "wisdom" of the free market, who chose to invest abroad.

Don't get me wrong, Farrage doesn't have the right answers, but for a long while he has been the only one suggesting that there is a problem that needs solving.
 

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I disagree, they might be the causes of the woes of the last five years. But in many Reform-inclined areas, this goes back a lot further, it's deindustrialisation without a credible regeneration plan, it's choosing to have expensive PFI deals for new infrastructure in the late 90's/2000's. It's the legacy of austerity and then half a decade of uncertainty over Brexit. It's the fact that it feels like half our country is owned by venture capitalists trying to extract as much money of possible out of everyone.

The areas the support Reform are mostly those that have been in a decline for a long time, and Labour and the Conservatives had the ability to rebuild, invest, and get the country firing on all cylinders. Instead, they chose to leave things to the supposed "wisdom" of the free market, who chose to invest abroad.

Don't get me wrong, Farrage doesn't have the right answers, but for a long while he has been the only one suggesting that there is a problem that needs solving.

I see what you mean but it's hard to believe that people think that Farage, whose friends appear to be bitcoin billionaires and other members of the big business elite, will actually do something. I think it's clear he won't, and he won't help the lot of people in any way whatsoever.

His "solution" appears to be that immigration, trans people, and doubtless bus lanes, cyclists and 20mph speed limits are the source of all our woes. Obviously as both you and I have said, they are not - so quite why people believe Farage will fix things is anyone's guess.

He's just dog-whistling to get people to vote for him, and thus benefit his business-elite friends who will screw us all if they ever get in.

Whatever the case, I am hopeful he won't get in - I can see them being the largest party but not enough seats for a majority even with a Tory coalition, and the remaining One Nation Tories will, I'm sure, refuse to have anything to do with them which makes it still less likely. What they perhaps underestimate is the sheer feeling of fear and anger towards Reform from much of the population.

A genuine left-wing and socialist party (one which doesn't exist right now but you never know in 3 years' time) would provide better answers IMO. While many people don't like the left and such a party would be unlikely to win, I can see a coalition involving a significant left-wing voice could be very beneficial.
 
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